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re: Where did all the water that caused the Mystic River flooding come from?
Posted on 7/11/25 at 7:14 am to fr33manator
Posted on 7/11/25 at 7:14 am to fr33manator
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A notable weather event is by definition an abnormal occurrence
In the past 8 days, there have been four catastrophic 1,000 year flood events across the USA:
1. The heartbreaking unprecedented deadly flooding in Texas's Hill Country
2. Record heavy rain and flooding on the west side of Chicago, prompting emergency rescues
3. Record rains and flooding in North Carolina following Tropical Storm Chantal
4. Torrential deadly thunderstorms wiping out the mountain resort town of Ruidoso, New Mexico, killing at least 3 persons.
Here are four record weather events, each with a 0.1% chance of happening. Put 1 in 1000 to the 4th power and you get an infinitesimally tiny number-- impossible to attain without the existence of a climate crisis.
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 7:16 am to Neutral Underground
It was remnants of Tropical Storm Barry that had come up from Mexico.
Some irony there but true.
Some irony there but true.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 7:31 am to Neutral Underground
Do you understand the concept of rain?
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:08 am to Neutral Underground
People have a tough time comprehending scale of time in geological terms. The comments of “this hasn’t happened in 100 years” really mean nothing in when you consider the terrain has been carved out over millions of years.
River valleys are “valleys” because this type of thing happens periodically over millennia. The same thing happened with Helene and that region has plenty of soil and vegetation..although the terrain is more extreme. That much water falling into a watershed for just a few outlets over a short period of time has nowhere else to go but down.
River valleys are “valleys” because this type of thing happens periodically over millennia. The same thing happened with Helene and that region has plenty of soil and vegetation..although the terrain is more extreme. That much water falling into a watershed for just a few outlets over a short period of time has nowhere else to go but down.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:10 am to Neutral Underground
Cloud seeding since 1999 to stave off “Global Warming:…
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:15 am to Neutral Underground
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To this magnitude? I just got done watching a video and the river rose by 16 ft in 8 minutes. That's a normal occurrence?
Depends on your perspective. It is perfectly normal for certain areas to flood every 100-500 years.
Further, in the last 100 years there has been mass manipulation of river systems, and this area is hardly and exception, it’s a prime example of it.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:19 am to Neutral Underground
In the Southwest the waters run fast in those hard dry gulches. Like webs they can run to a established river. Get a rain event that is a slow mover or not at all and throw in at night? It's happened to campers out there before just like this.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:20 am to tarzana
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Here are four record weather events, each with a 0.1% chance of happening. Put 1 in 1000 to the 4th power and you get an infinitesimally tiny number-- impossible to attain without the existence of a climate crisis.
This is silly.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:25 am to tarzana
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1. The heartbreaking unprecedented deadly flooding in Texas's Hill Country
It is not unprecedented. It happened in the summer at 2:00 AM when children were out of school and people were on vacations. It was a terrible confluence of events.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:25 am to tarzana
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impossible to attain without the existence of a climate crisis.
BS
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:28 am to SquatchDawg
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People have a tough time comprehending scale of time in geological terms. The comments of “this hasn’t happened in 100 years” really mean nothing in when you consider the terrain has been carved out over millions of years.
River valleys are “valleys” because this type of thing happens periodically over millennia. The same thing happened with Helene and that region has plenty of soil and vegetation..although the terrain is more extreme. That much water falling into a watershed for just a few outlets over a short period of time has nowhere else to go but down.
As a geologist, thanks for the comments. Why are there tens of thousands of feet of stacked terrestrial sourced sediments at the bottom of Gulf of America?
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:31 am to theballguy
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Why camp in such an obvious flood zone?
Because it's a beautiful spot to wake up at in the mornings. Hiking, tubing, etc.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:32 am to tarzana
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In the past 8 days, there have been four catastrophic 1,000 year flood events across the USA
In order to make this claim with any statistical certainty you’d need to know how many of these events occurred over a 20,000 to 50,000 year period.
What records are you referring to?
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:34 am to Neutral Underground
It rains, the dirt is too dry to absorb the water fast enough so it just rolls down the hills.
Same concept of why it floods in the mountains.
The water just rolls off vs being absorbed.
Someone more scientific than me can explain why a system moves slow or stalls but that’s what happens in these floods.
Happened in Baton Rouge, but you don’t have water rushing down the sides of mountains in Baton Rouge.
Same concept of why it floods in the mountains.
The water just rolls off vs being absorbed.
Someone more scientific than me can explain why a system moves slow or stalls but that’s what happens in these floods.
Happened in Baton Rouge, but you don’t have water rushing down the sides of mountains in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:37 am to Neutral Underground
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To this magnitude? I just got done watching a video and the river rose by 16 ft in 8 minutes. That's a normal occurrence?
Yes. Flooding happens all over the world. They are called "flash floods" for a reason. Rain doesn't just drop in 1 centralized location and meander it's way down a channel. It falls all over an area, accumulating. In this particular area, i believe there were a bunch of wildfires in the past, ergo, vegetation was low. Vegetation slows and absorbs water accumulation.
It's unfortunate but it happens. And it will happen again, many many times.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:37 am to Neutral Underground
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Flooding for thousands of years
To this magnitude? I just got done watching a video and the river rose by 16 ft in 8 minutes. That's a normal occurrence?
Somebunny has never heard of SRV
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:41 am to tarzana
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Put 1 in 1000 to the 4th power and you get an infinitesimally tiny number-- impossible to attain without the existence of a climate crisis.
So, the climate crisis started in 2025?
Have you ever heard of weather before? Do you know what "history" is? You seem to be making a bunch of asinine remarks without really understanding anything about Earth, geography, climate, weather, or history.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:58 am to BugAC
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making a bunch of asinine remarks without really understanding anything about Earth
You can continue to mock and jeer, but look around you: the past 10-15 years it has literally been every man for himself per abnormal weather events. We're all at the mercy of abnormal, even deadly weather events, whether it's hurricanes, violent tornadoes, derechos, floods, mudslides, lightning, firestorms, etc. Something's amiss, and it's the result of an ~ 80% increase in atmospheric CO2 levels since 1950. Case closed.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:04 am to tarzana
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The Guadalupe River has a history of severe flooding, particularly in the Texas Hill Country, earning it the nickname "Flash Flood Alley" due to its susceptibility to rapid and intense flooding. Major floods have occurred in 1936, 1952, 1972, 1973, 1978, 1987, 1991, 1997, and 2025. The region's terrain, with steep slopes and narrow riverbeds, contributes to the speed and intensity of flooding
This is from a Google search.
1000 YEAR FLOOD!
But I see now you’re shifting from an attempt at presenting inaccurate “facts” to emotion.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:09 am to wfallstiger
quote:Our lake house on Caddo Lake sits where the bottom is 11' above pool stage. Normally the lake, being a natural lake and not a Corp of Engineers lake, fluctuates only a moderate amount, and most 'floods' happening every 4-5 years making it up to the bottom of the steps. I remember well that low system that parked itself over NE Texas and dropped 21" of rain in 24 hours. It took a couple of days to reach peak water level. This photo shows it almost at the peak. The water came up enough to damage the insulation and take out an AC.
Have seen similar in North Texas - our lake levels were critically low - using recycled waste water. Had a similar set up and within 3 days our watershed was full. A system simply sat on top of us. Had limited flooding as the topography is different.
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