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re: Where did all the intelligent contrarians/liberals go?

Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:29 pm to
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You are being coy. Basically the policies supported by the Democrat Party. Open borders, subversion of American sovereignty, limitation of 2nd Amendment rights, PC speech codes, support of Antifa, racial/sexual/social/gender grievances ad nauseum.
This is why it is so damned frustrating to attempt any discussion of these issues on this forum.

Sure, there are a handful of hard-Right posters who are willing to discuss the intricacies of each of these issues, but most seem to be incapable of seeing any non-binary position.

"Limitation of 2nd Amendment rights?" You probably won't find anyone on the entire forum who wants to discard the 2A. But there is LOTS to discuss about EXACTLY what it means and the details of its applicability to any given situation.

But one cannot discuss those details here without wading through the 90% of the responses that consist of very little beyond "you hate America" or various iterations of the same half-dozen popular pejoratives.

It is like trying to discuss algebra with six year olds.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14172 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Twitter is a Marxist safe space so.....

And you would know this how?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:30 pm to
There is a perverse definition of conservative that has developed here too. If Trump is for it--it is conservative. Doesn't matter how far from traditional Goldwater conservatism it is if Trump espouses it then on TD it is conservative.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:37 pm to
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I can't get a read on you. From what I've seen, you're a contrarian who calls himself a libertarian, but tends to lean left.
Not at all.

As I said above, I only bother to post on topics where I disagree with the majority. Where is the fun in being the 45th person to agree with the OP? As a result, I post mostly with regard to my more Left-leaning positions. Like most libertarians, I certainly have them.

I hold plenty of positions that would get me tossed off of liberal-leaning fora ... e.g. complete opposition to all public accommodation laws and affirmative action. But why waste time on those issues. I don't need the attaboys from the peanut gallery, most of whom clearly lack the wit to even understand WHY they are correct.

Of course, I also admit to getting a certain entertainment value from poking holes in REALLY stupid arguments from Trumpettes who clearly lack much understanding of the issues on which they insist upon sharing their views.

E.g. the cake-baking cases. Mindless far-Right ideologues routinely say things that simply TELEGRAPH the fact that they do not understand the applicable law. While I might disagree with the law (I do), I also find it endlessly entertaining to watch people scream about those cases without even understanding the laws on which the cases turn.

This place operates as a giant Trump pep-rally. Yes, it is entertaining to steal the mascot. Even more so to watch morons insist that the mascot is still there.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:39 pm to
Same as others I’m not a liberal, but as others have said this board can be exhausting. I mostly lurk these days because of how bad of a Trump echo chamber this place has become the past few years.

I’ve posted a little bit this weekend on a couple of topics, and it reminded me why I stick to lurking.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14172 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:43 pm to
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It's a waste of time engaging people who are either completely disingenuous or willfully ignorant. And those are really the only two possibilities for individuals who support Leftist policy in this day and age.

You basically posted the same tripe three times in this thread.

So, you don't engage because as far as you are concerned your opinions and beliefs are far superior to anyone who disagrees with you.

What a bunch of crap. You're just trying to hide your intellectual deficiency with this empty bravado B.S.



You don't actually discuss issues you just
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27062 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:43 pm to
I’ve started threads in which the only purpose was to beg people to get their information about popular cases from SCOTUSblog instead of whatever ignorant tit is assigned the story by a major news organization
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:49 pm to
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I’ve started threads in which the only purpose was to beg people to get their information about popular cases from SCOTUSblog instead of whatever ignorant tit is assigned the story by a major news organization
Or even worse, the ignorant frick who wrote an article for Gateway Pundit ....

Sequence:

Read mischaracterization from some halfwit far-Right faux "journalist," usually screwed-up still further by the OP

Explain the actual ruling and provide links to actual basis and meaning of the ruling.

Be bombarded by insults and character assassination.

Rinse and repeat.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71373 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:56 pm to
Makes sense.

I'm a pretty hardcore libertarian and even I get shite on from time to time by the Trumpers.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:57 pm to
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commercial reasons


Bingo
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2444 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:57 pm to
“Liberal” here.
In addition to what’s already been said


1. No point in putting ideas forth in an echo chamber that automatically renders any outside opinion as stupid, spoon fed to me by the MSM, or communist.

2. Sources here tend to be Breitbart or Drudge Report. Polls tend to be Rasmussen. The information this board gets is just as bad as for someone who watches only MSNBC. NPR is even full of liberal cucks on this board.


So, I just lurk to see what the board thinks on issues rather than get attacked by dozens of people calling me names while ignoring any point that was made. If you aren’t a trumpkin, nothing you say on this board ever has a chance of getting through to anyone unless they’re libertarians and can at least see both sides.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64319 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:12 pm to
Lol well said.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4441 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:18 pm to
I still consider myself liberal due to certain personal beliefs but I #walkedaway from the Democratic Party approx 2 years ago #notmyparty #liberaldeplorable
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:25 pm to
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Sources here tend to be Breitbart or Drudge Report. Polls tend to be Rasmussen. The information this board gets is just as bad as for someone who watches only MSNBC. NPR is even full of liberal cucks on this board.




I don't understand why Drudge is considered such a bad place by democrats. Almost all the links there are to the MSM publications and English newspapers. I like drudge because all the papers are there. It seems to the Brit publications cover US politics better than the American papers do.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56457 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:27 pm to
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Where did all the intelligent contrarians/liberals go?



name one that was here and was intelligent
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51900 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:29 pm to
Because this board goes after any contrarian voice even if they are conservative. Almost no one offers thought out viewpoints: it’s pretty much exclusively knee jerk reactions.

So the more interesting question is: why would you expect them to stay?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:30 pm to
The poli board is Mos Eisley

I like to frick around and slum with the aliens, engage with the freaks, and enjoy the band and the cocktails, but sooner or later you just have to whip out the lightsaber and cut off a few arms and then laugh and jump in the Falcon and peace out
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:36 pm to
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. The are devoid of intellectual honesty.


This. If you have to lie to make a point you don't have a point. Why would you follow an ideology that requires you to lie like a dog every time you open your mouth.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29665 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:38 pm to
I have to agree, would not mind seeing a few more intelligent left leaning voices (Tuscaloosa)

But we do have some intelligent libs that can present ideas/argue their side

boozie is decent and obviously a sharp guy, he has just decided to roll with the contrarian schtick lately...
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71524 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:43 pm to
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boozie is decent and obviously a sharp gut, he has just decided to roll with the contrarian schtick lately...



Pretty sure he just got a timeout, too.
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