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re: When you control House, Senate, and Presidency… why do omnibus bills?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:31 pm to Chancellor
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:31 pm to Chancellor
To eliminate the filibuster, the Senate would need to change Rule 22. However, changing Senate rules requires a two-thirds vote of those present and voting, not a simple majority.
So no. It can not be eliminated
So no. It can not be eliminated
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:32 pm to PaperTiger
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It's the nuclear option. Democrats came up with it
Does not work on legislation. While the "nuclear option" (a simple majority vote to create a new precedent) can be used for some matters, it is not applicable to eliminating the filibuster for legislation.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:33 pm to The Baker
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Does changing a senate rule require 60 votes as well?
Yes
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:42 pm to JustSmokin
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You guys haven't been listening to massie and the freedom caucus. These tax cuts cost $4.5 trillion over 10 years. They want spending cuts to pay for it.
And most of the cuts can't be included in a reconciliation bill. That's why it is so dumbfounding that conservatives are fighting so hard when they know that these cuts can't be included. The congressmen know this, but they use it as a talking point because they know their supporters will dutifully repeat it, even after they've been proven to be wrong.
As a taxpayer, I think it's messed up that "conservative" politicians are holding tax breaks hostage. Pass the tax breaks, then fight for the cuts after that. Shut down the government if you have to. If they really cared about the American worker, this is what they would do.
The time to put your foot down is on spending, not tax breaks. And this bill doesn't add nearly as much spending as people are pretending. The trillion dollar numbers are the tax breaks as you recognized but most do not.
It really shows a lack of thinking on the part of conservatives. Their stubbornness doesn't allow them to always see the best path forward.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:48 pm to The Baker
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I’m ignorant on when the senate needs simple majority vs 60 votes
Almost anything that is not in a reconciliation bill needs 60
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:22 am to SingleMalt1973
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Strangely the Dems never have problems with this, just look at the trillions Obama and Biden spent, ot to mention Obamacare.
The Democrats had 59 senators when they passed Obamacare
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:15 am to The Baker
It would be an interesting tactic and certainly get news coverage for being unique.
Essentially MAKE democrats raise your taxes. Single issue, no excuses.
Essentially MAKE democrats raise your taxes. Single issue, no excuses.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:29 am to The Baker
In order to fully "control" the Senate you need to have 60 republican senators - and all of them have to agree. Republican lawmakers are not under the control of their 'leadership' like the Democraps are.
Dems all line up like sheep = no individual discretion allowed. that's why so many of them are like sleep-walking juveniles - good for nothing but making noise and messing things up.
Dems all line up like sheep = no individual discretion allowed. that's why so many of them are like sleep-walking juveniles - good for nothing but making noise and messing things up.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:31 am to thejuiceisloose
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The Democrats had 59 senators when they passed Obamacare
You can blame McCain for that debacle -
May he rot in hell.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:40 am to The Baker
quote:Because you need 60 votes to pass and democrats will work with Trump on NOTHING.
Why not just have single bills for each issue?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:34 am to The Baker
60 votes to have uncontested control
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:39 am to The Baker
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When you control House, Senate, and Presidency… why do omnibus bills?
You do realize that some Repukes are bought-and-paid-for too, right?
It's been 10 years, but some people still dont understand how deeply entrenched the corrupt Political Establishment actually is. Just as one example, I guarantee you that Lindsey Graham would much rather have Mitt Romney as President than Trump. Hell, he'd probably take Hillary over Trump.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:45 am to JustSmokin
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The Dems are still kicking themselves in the arse for eliminating the filibuster on judicial nominations under Obama. The GOP warned them they would regret it. Fast forward to the Trump admin who appointed 3 SCOTUS judges with a simple majority. No way any of them gets 60 votes.
This is the reason neither party will change 60 vote rule in the Senate. Democrats changed the rule for judges, and may have lost the Supreme Court forever.
GOP would be foolish to allow Dems to pass single bills with 51 votes.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:49 am to The Baker
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Like a 1 pager that extends Trump tax cuts?
Would require 60 votes.
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