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When Will Republicans Realize That Idenity Polictics Is Real?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:37 pm
This idea that the GOP will someday get a majority of non-white voters is idiocracy. As Tucker said tonight, demographics is real and does matter. In the 60's, 1% of Virginia residents were born in a foreign country. Today 15% of Virginia people were born in foreign country. That state didn't turn Blue because of tax policy or healthcare. It turned Blue solely because of non-white immigration. This idea that people vote based on tax policy or school policy as opposed to what is best for their ethnic group is just insane and killing the GOP. Sure, this may hurt the Dems in the short run, but they're not playing the short game. It's about the long game, and once America's demographics are forever finished in another 20 years, tax or healthcare policy won't matter. Texas will be Blue within 12 years and then good luck. While every other group in America explicitly caters to their own group, Whites still refuse to think that we have interests and that we can convince these Somali refugees to vote for us.
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:44 pm to Jump High
Identity Politics are the origins of every terrible thing humanity has done to one another since the Industrial Revolution. It exists, but it is not justified. The war of ideas is more important than things that are innate that you can't help.
Who said this fantastic quote:
It was MLK, so he was really just responding to white identity politics, unlike say Malcolm X who was consumed with black identity politics.
Who said this fantastic quote:
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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
It was MLK, so he was really just responding to white identity politics, unlike say Malcolm X who was consumed with black identity politics.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 12:16 am
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:49 pm to OMLandshark
haha, you again! Again, you continue to prove my point. Every other group plays identity politics except you. You're be shaking your head in 50 years wondering what the hell happened to America. But at least you'll be able to tell your kids that you didn't take part in identity politics.
Also, how exactly has your war of ideas ever convinced say a majority of Hispanics, or Blacks, or Asians, or any other group to vote with you?
Also, how exactly has your war of ideas ever convinced say a majority of Hispanics, or Blacks, or Asians, or any other group to vote with you?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:49 pm to Jump High
Because immigrants assimilate. The more generations removed from coming here, the less they vote as a block. 1st generation immigrants vote democrat overwhelmingly, but second generation trend dem much less overwhelmingly. By the third generation, the grandchildren of immigrants are loyal republican voters.
See, when people have nothing, they vote for the party that promises something from someone else. Once people work hard enough and long enough to become the group that party is taking from, they vote for the party that lets them keep more of their stuff.
Identity politics is not the silver bullet the democratic party thinks it is.
See, when people have nothing, they vote for the party that promises something from someone else. Once people work hard enough and long enough to become the group that party is taking from, they vote for the party that lets them keep more of their stuff.
Identity politics is not the silver bullet the democratic party thinks it is.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:52 pm to Jump High
All we can really do for now is make your woman vote the right way instead of for the democrat, and keep voting for guys like trump who will keep the bad hombres and the terrorists out of the country and out of the voting booth
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:53 pm to kingbob
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cause immigrants assimilate. The more generations removed from coming here, the less they vote as a block.
Actually, you're completely wrong. 1st generation Hispanics vote for the GOP at about 35%, but 2nd generation Hispanics vote for the GOP at just 20%. You're probably still stuck at looking at how White immigrants use to vote. But those trends don't apply anymore.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:53 pm to Jump High
quote:Just stop. Seriously. Stop.
Jump High
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:53 pm to kingbob
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Because immigrants assimilate. The more generations removed from coming here, the less they vote as a block. 1st generation immigrants vote democrat overwhelmingly, but second generation trend dem much less overwhelmingly. By the third generation, the grandchildren of immigrants are loyal republican voters.
See, when people have nothing, they vote for the party that promises something from someone else. Once people work hard enough and long enough to become the group that party is taking from, they vote for the party that lets them keep more of their stuff.
Identity politics is not the silver bullet the democratic party thinks it is.
Where do you get your talking points? Sesame street? GTFO with this rainbow coalition shite
Posted on 11/8/17 at 11:56 pm to Wolfhound45
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Just stop. Seriously. Stop.
Stop with what? Do you have a point of mine to refute, or are you just uncomfortable by what I'm saying? I'm open to conversation, but not this emotional appeal you're making.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:02 am to Jump High
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haha, you again! Again, you continue to prove my point. Every other group plays identity politics except you. You're be shaking your head in 50 years wondering what the hell happened to America. But at least you'll be able to tell your kids that you didn't take part in identity politics.
Also, how exactly has your war of ideas ever convinced say a majority of Hispanics, or Blacks, or Asians, or any other group to vote with you?
For the last eight years we had a black president.
Now we have Trump.
Narrative says, you wrong son.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:02 am to Jump High
Identity politics is very real, but its premise is not. It is an agenda built upon propaganda, taking advantage of those who are less informed on the matters, a re-segregation along racial lines.
It's disgusting. So while it may be real, I cannot bring myself to play into it.
It's disgusting. So while it may be real, I cannot bring myself to play into it.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:04 am to Jump High
I am not making an emotional appeal. Just an appeal to common sense. What you are focused on is simply divisive. It is the pox upon our country right now and the Democratic Party continues to stoke the fires of hatred and division. Just stop.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:05 am to Rougarou13
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Identity politics is very real, but its premise is not. It is an agenda built upon propaganda, taking advantage of those who are less informed on the matters, a re-segregation along racial lines.
It's disgusting. So while it may be real, I cannot bring myself to play into it.
I agree with almost all you are saying. But I'm honestly curious how you expect to win National elections going forward from the graphs I've posted without playing some identity politics.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:07 am to Jump High
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Every other group plays identity politics except you.
Because I'm above it. I think it's an evil and plague on society.
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You're be shaking your head in 50 years wondering what the hell happened to America.
If it becomes consumed with identity politics, you're damn right I will be.
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But at least you'll be able to tell your kids that you didn't take part in identity politics.
Yes, I can tell my kids that at least we weren't racist scumbags. I'd take that with great pride.
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Also, how exactly has your war of ideas ever convinced say a majority of Hispanics, or Blacks, or Asians, or any other group to vote with you?
The Hispanics is easy enough to explain and it's because Republicans were morons and didn't see that they had a common value system. Instead they went after their Hispanic identity where they fought fire with fire.
Blacks I think we can squarely put on the Democrats.
Asians is a bit more of a mystery, but Republicans need to stop acting like the villains and that they lost the culture war and start saying how their ideas are morally superior like the Democrats do. That does not have anything to do with someone's race, sex, religion, or sexuality.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:09 am to Wolfhound45
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I am not making an emotional appeal. Just an appeal to common sense.
But again, you are acting as if this is 1950-60's America. It just does not work anymore. I seriously want to know how you expect to get a majority of non-whites to vote Republican when 80% of them voted for the Democrats yesterday.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:11 am to Jump High
The big issue in last night's election was Health Care. Repubs still need an answer.
Virginia was 76% white in 1990 and now 63%. Today, only 50% of births are white.
Black - 20%
Hispanic - 9% - (large segment of Puerto Rico)
Asians - 7%
Virginia was 76% white in 1990 and now 63%. Today, only 50% of births are white.
Black - 20%
Hispanic - 9% - (large segment of Puerto Rico)
Asians - 7%
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:11 am to Jump High
What's your soloosh, brah?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:12 am to Jump High
Identity politics is the worst thing in American politics.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:16 am to OMLandshark
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Because I'm above it. I think it's an evil and plague on society.
But every other group is not against it, and will laugh at you as they vote you out of power forever.
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If it becomes consumed with identity politics, you're damn right I will be.
It already is, you dummy. Go ask any voter if they vote for someone based on their policies or what is best for their ethnic group overall. You'll be in for a rude awaking.
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The Hispanics is easy enough to explain and it's because Republicans were morons and didn't see that they had a common value system.
So why do 2nd generation Hispanics vote 80% for Democrats? If it was so easy, why aren't they voting Republican? Again, it's because identity politics is real, and they'd rather vote for someone who will say they will pass amnesty and allow their whole family to come here.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:24 am to OMLandshark
So, in essence, what you're saying is race is THE deciding factor in voting? Not healthcare, not the economy, not international relations, not education, not jobs, not national security, but RACE?
And you've somehow rationalized this as a positive thing ?
You're saying people should start focusing on race above all else?
I had to ask again, because it's difficult to believe people would follow this mindset so devoutly.
And you've somehow rationalized this as a positive thing ?
You're saying people should start focusing on race above all else?
I had to ask again, because it's difficult to believe people would follow this mindset so devoutly.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 12:25 am
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