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re: When did you first realize our country had gone off track?

Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8629 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:37 pm to
When I posted on another football website that Drags Queens were reading stories to our kids in public libraries... and people started defending it...

Thats when I knew all hope was lost...

That and the Kapernik NFL ordeal.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5107 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:46 pm to

When I finally started paying attention to those conversations my grandparents and their neighbors and friends were having about the "old days".

They were too polite to "make a fuss" but they knew, long before the internet, mass media and political establishment had poisoned the well that the society they loved and had painstakingly built was sliding down a bad path and it could be felt by them in everything - the way we ate, talked, acted, spoke, learned and worshiped.

They knew. We just ignored them because they were wrinkly and we were too busy playing with our cool toys and spending money.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69399 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:48 pm to
It started with the invasion of Iraq. The Patriot Act seemed sus before, but Iraq seemed like such an obvious f$&k up that had nothing to do with 9/11 that I couldn’t comprehend the cognitive dissonance. However, it wasn’t until Katrina that I realized just how completely incompetent and incoherent our government had become. This was reinforced with the BP oil spill. Wikileaks helped me realize government wasn’t just incompetent, but straight up evil and dystopian. I didn’t realize just how deep the corruption went until I interned for a local judge in law school and overheard some drunk judges swapping campaign war stories with absolutely horrifying details. Covid showed just how far gone we are towards tyranny.

As for socially, I knew something was f$&ked when my high school descended into racial violence after Obama’s election. Race had been such a non-issue before that and most friend groups there were integrated. However, I wrote it off as one-off stupid event.

The rise of Tumblr and cancel culture while I was in college was when I realized something was incurably wrong with society.
Posted by srotaG adirolF
Lakeland, Florida
Member since May 2004
806 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:50 pm to
In hindsight, the creation of the CIA and FBI. Also, the Civil Rights and the Voting acts.
Throw in making school prayer illegal, immigration act of 1965 and LBJ's welfare nonsense and that changed the culture.
Oh, Rock n roll didn't help either.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54049 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

The election of WJC...the death of Statesmanship


For many Americans over age 55 this ^^^^ was the absolute beginning of US politics going off the rails.....Slick Willie.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:56 pm to
When Nancy Pelosi was sheltering MS13 " spark of divinity" after Trump said mean things about them


I realized ... You can deal with that. There is no debating, no rational thought that c will change things when the highest dem is going that route
Posted by Bsltee
Member since Mar 2022
46 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:02 pm to
1963 when Supreme Court took prayer out of school. The slippery slope really started then. LBJ is a close second
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:11 pm to
Kaepernick
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
21752 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:17 pm to
January 22, 1973 - Roe v Wade
Posted by caleb07
Member since Dec 2018
781 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:18 pm to
When O Bama was elected.
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
2625 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:48 pm to
When Obama was installed, no doubt. Racism never crossed most minds until Obama stirred the pot incessantly
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19292 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:50 pm to
When the useful idiot Jimmy Carter was elected. I wasn't around for Woodrow Wilson or F. Roosevelt, so I would say one of them. LBJ was an awful person and racist POS that did nothing but destroy the fabric of society and get thousands of men killed in Vietnam.
Posted by GeauxJeaux78
Member since May 2020
1159 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:51 pm to
First? Difficult to answer...maybe 2005 during Hurricane Katrina which illuminated a lot of break downs that were imminent and likely already there.

But for me, was confirmed when "alphabet soup" community became a legit thing.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141795 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:55 pm to
The media started to become overly partisan during W’s term.

Throw in celebrities trying to out woke one another and the social media boom.

The thing I didn’t realize is how far gone academia had been infested by deranged ideologues.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6565 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:56 pm to
When the Chinese killed a bunch of students in Tiananmen Square and we renewed their most favored nation status shortly thereafter.

I’m not sure why that shocked me. Maybe I was just young and naive.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79512 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:59 pm to
2004.

That's when the Dims fully abandoned working people and cucked to the MIC/Wall Street. (Obama was a bait and switch.)

Since they were screwing us, they had to distract people from economic issues. Republicans already had the God and country lane, so the Democrats had to go with Clown World.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
25164 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4103 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 5:05 pm to
When senate majority leader Harry Reid changed the rules on approving judges from 60 to 51. Democrats have been able to place many radical left wing judges on the bench. Look at that wacko biden put on supremecourt.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14806 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 5:25 pm to
And that Wench of a ^'dgsh# that came with him
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20380 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 5:35 pm to
When George Wallace got shot and didn’t get the nomination.
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