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re: When did science become a religion?

Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:41 pm to
Scopes Monkey Trial
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:44 pm to
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Scientism requires faith. Like all religions.


This is a huge false equivalency, but I'd be surprised if you could even correctly name what science requires faith in.

This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Since when are we supposed to disregard all of this and blindly follow science as some kind of absolute, unquestionable doctrine?


I can't say when but I can say how that happened. When some one values something but is ignorant of it, you can have them believe anything you want then to believe.

Most people have very little scientific education. Most people will never see a high school chemistry or physics class and honestly their knowledge of science consist on what they see on TV. They are conditioned to accept what they are told, not question what was said. It's amazing how many theories people believe are fact but it's just theories. Hear it enough and it becomes fact to them. Those pushing it are the experts and no one else can challenge them.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36089 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:46 pm to
Scientism or Scientificism is not something that is necessarily new. In
In he late 1800's during the guilded age it was all the rage...think Darwin and all the technological advancements that came between the end of the Civil War and WWI. The super wealthy embraced it, manly because it was a huge benefit to them. WWI however shook their faith in it with the death and destruction that it wrought. Today's manifestation is not much different overall. The glaring difference today is the lack of any traditional religious underpinning. Carnegie at least said he believed in God. Rockefeller was active in the Baptist church, etc. Today's robber barons and wealthy get off in saying they are atheist.

During the enlightenment people thought guys like Newton and Galileo were sent by God and the intellectual and ruling classes of Europe treated them as profits.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:51 pm to
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SBBruin28

Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:52 pm to
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This is a huge false equivalency, but I'd be surprised if you could even correctly name what science requires faith in.



We could start with the Big Bang THEORY.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:54 pm to
Science isn't s religion. I'm not clear what you mean?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17006 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Imagine this deranged nut pontificating on science



Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1800 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:01 pm to
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If more people followed the science


One does not "follow science", ever. You adhere to the scientific method to research and make predictions on the natural world.

If you "follow science", you get things like the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Josef Mengele, The Little Albert Experiment, etc, etc, etc.

The scientific method is not political, it is not philosophical, and it does not usurp spirituality, morality, or ethics.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:03 pm to
Oh yes it is. Especially idiots that know nothing about it, constantly invoking it
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 3:04 pm
Posted by ZOMGlsutigers
Slidell
Member since Dec 2007
426 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:04 pm to
Are you serious, Religion and Christianity will always dominate over science and what ever nonsense Bill Gates wants to spew about eating children
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1800 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:07 pm to
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I'd be surprised if you could even correctly name what science requires faith in.


Mathematics - Assumptions such as 1=1, 1+1=2, 1+2=3
Physics - the Law of Gravity
Biology - the definition of "life", as in viruses are not alive, prions are not alive, etc.
Observation
Repeatability
Publishing
Peer Review
etc, etc, etc.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6712 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:08 pm to
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 I'd be surprised if you could even correctly name what science requires faith in.


Environmentalism requires a lot of blind faith.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7658 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:09 pm to
We have public schools here in East Baton Rouge parish that teach "creative" science. I'm not kidding.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116835 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:12 pm to
Think about it:

Schools used to be for education. Now they are for propaganda.
Weather forecasting used to be for agriculture. Now it's for propaganda.
Sports on TV used to be for entertainment. Now it's for propaganda.
Science used to be for discovery of truth. Now it's for propaganda.

Do you see a trend?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:12 pm to
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We could start with the Big Bang THEORY.


I feel like it's 2010 around here with this stuff and talk about Kent Hovid.

I'm begging you guys...stop.

"Just a Theory"
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4656 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:18 pm to
Stupid people made science into a religion.

They don't get that while it's wise to follow established scientific laws, scientists themselves can become corrupt, lying sacks of shyte who can manipulate data and outcomes of "experiments" for personal gain or just plain laziness.

So believe in established scientific laws all you want.

Just know that scientists themselves are not always trustworthy.



FWIW I have a bachelor's in engineering.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:38 pm to
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Mathematics - Assumptions such as 1=1, 1+1=2, 1+2=3
Physics - the Law of Gravity
Biology - the definition of "life", as in viruses are not alive, prions are not alive, etc.
Observation
Repeatability
Publishing
Peer Review
etc, etc, etc.


Maybe you're not understanding. Some of the things you listed here require faith, others do not.

Would you like to try again? It's very simple and the faith is at the heart of the scientific method.

I can give you another hint? You exercise the same faith everytime you flush the toilet.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126698 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:39 pm to
It is now Sciencism.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6188 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:40 pm to
Global Warming priests created it when they realized they could launder tax dollars out of government to the leftists.
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