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What's your plans if the US has a sovereign debt crisis?

Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46052 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:33 pm
As some of you know the CCP has been working for the past 15-20 years towards unseating the USD as the world's reserve currency......if this happens it would mean China is officially the world's alpha superpower.

This past week the CCP brokered a deal between Saudis and Iran for a normalization of relations and to huge trade agreement between China, Iran and SA for energy/oil with the payments to be made in China's yuan. Some will scoff at this development as no big deal but they fail to realize that China has been working on these type of trade deals more and more the past several years......and other countries are taking notice of China's economic flex. China is also stockpiling gold as is Russia and India.

If the world turns away from the USD and towards the China yuan or some other new currency agreed upon between China, Russia, Iran, India, SA, Brazil etc. the US economy is immediately in full meltdown and the consequences are very hard to imagine or easily quantified.

My understanding is if a sovereign debt crisis were to occur in the US the value of the USD would plummet very quickly and of course societal chaos would likely follow. To be honest, I'm not sure where you put cash to protect yourself. I guess you could buy various hard assets such as precious metals, real estate/farm land, commodities etc. but once the herd money moves towards those hard assets they quickly become over priced and are not really an option for most Americans.

What's your plan?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26206 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:35 pm to
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towards the China yuan or some other new currency agreed upon between China, Russia, Iran, India, SA, Brazil etc. t

Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45202 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:35 pm to
Probably get drunk.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:37 pm to
The powers that be would start WW3
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:40 pm to
The best plan for most of our future crisis is to move to the country , produce your own food and have sustainable back up power .
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46052 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:42 pm to
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quote:towards the China yuan or some other new currency agreed upon between China, Russia, Iran, India, SA, Brazil etc. t


Yes, the USD is indestructible..... :lol:
It could never happen.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
We have the right people at the levers of power.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Our fiat monetary system is the envy of the world.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Our $32 trillion of debt is totally sustainable..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
We're the USA with a $1 trillion military budget..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
We'll force our useless currency on the world backed by our MIC..... :lol: :lol: :lol:


It's funny as hell... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rotflmao:
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:42 pm to
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What's your plan?

Back my real estate up with precious metals. I figure the relative value of land and gold will be fairly stable. So I have about 8-10 years of tax payments in gold for all of my land and improvements. The key is being able to pay the sheriff in something he'll accept for taxes at the end of every year. That way he won't take your land for a millage of its value.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53465 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:43 pm to
You can LOL... but the fact is the move China made this week with SA and Iran is a direct hit at the dollar.

We, in the nation, can not see where we are and refuse to admit that we can be beat.

It is that short shortsightedness that keeps us for acting responsibly in trade and more.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46052 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:44 pm to
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Back my real estate up with precious metals. I figure the relative value of land and gold will be fairly stable. So I have about 8-10 years of tax payments in gold for all of my land and improvements. The key is being able to pay the sheriff in something he'll accept for taxes at the end of every year. That way he won't take your land for a millage of its value.


At least you have a plan....most are going to be slack jawed.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120260 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:47 pm to
The USD isnt going anywhere

As bad as our monetary policy is, every other country is even worse.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49148 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:47 pm to
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precious metals

Put your money in guns and ammo. There will be millions of people unprepared, and those people will pay anything to protect themselves and their families.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63967 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:52 pm to
Shotgun
Rifle
4wd
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46052 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:53 pm to
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You can LOL... but the fact is the move China made this week with SA and Iran is a direct hit at the dollar. We, in the nation, can not see where we are and refuse to admit that we can be beat. It is that short shortsightedness that keeps us for acting responsibly in trade and more.


He/she is indefatigable.....and they're a lot smarter than you....the USD is indestructible and will be the world's reserve currency for the next 100 years regardless of US debt or China's efforts to dethrone the USD. If we continue on the current trajectory with absolute corrupt and greedy morons running this country the USD takes a backseat to an alternative currency in the next 10 years....maybe less....the world has been watching the US very closely the past two years and they are not impressed....they're disgusted.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:55 pm to
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What's your plans if the US has a sovereign debt crisis?
Its when. Not if. Simple math
This post was edited on 3/11/23 at 4:55 pm
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4749 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Put your money in guns and ammo. There will be millions of people unprepared, and those people will pay anything to protect themselves and their families.


Better yet, don't be where they are
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:00 pm to
Move to the deer camp and live off the land!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26206 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:06 pm to
Yes, I think believing that quaking in your boots about some loose trade association including a couple of failed states, Russia’s weak arse economy, and China is hilarious. Every nation you mentioned, and almost every nation on earth, has even worse monetary policy and a worse-situated economic outlook than we do.
This post was edited on 3/11/23 at 5:09 pm
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:19 pm to
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other new currency agreed upon between China, Russia, Iran, India, SA, Brazil


:lol: :lol: :lol:

None of these, or all of these together, could replace the USD right now.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27561 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:42 pm to
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You can LOL... but the fact is the move China made this week with SA and Iran is a direct hit at the dollar


This. People laugh, but it's inevitable. And, likely in the next 20-30 years.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:44 pm to
I'm gonna be a local warlord.
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