re: What’s the point of NATO?

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Are NATO contributions based on population size of each country?

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From NATOs site

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At the 2025 NATO Summit in The Hague, Allies made a commitment to investing 5% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) annually on core defence requirements and defence- and security-related spending by 2035.

They will allocate at least 3.5% of GDP annually based on the agreed definition of NATO defence expenditure by 2035 to resource core defence requirements and to meet the NATO Capability Targets.

Allies agreed to submit annual plans showing a credible, incremental path to reach this goal. They will account for up to 1.5% of GDP annually to inter alia protect critical infrastructure, defend networks, ensure civil preparedness and resilience, innovate, and strengthen the defence industrial base.

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Previously, in 2006, NATO Defence Ministers agreed to commit a minimum of 2% of their GDP to defence spending.

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England and France have nukes. They don’t need our protection from Russia.

They also arrest people that make mean tweets.

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Yeah, after we are finished with Iran, we will have secured an area much much more important the US interest than any interest we have in Europe.

At some point the Islamist that are now running much of Europe will have to be dealt with. As you said the UK and France both have nukes. And Islamic run gov'ts there are closer to us than Iran.

I think we start pulling back from much of Europe and Russia will end up dealing with them.

It comes from prophecy and it doesn't matter what Russia can do today. We are talking about some time in the future.

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Sure they do. China is rapidly expanding its military force projection from regional defense to global operations, . include growing its nuclear arsenal to over 1,000 warheads by 2030, enhancing its navy with three operational carriers (targeting nine by 2035), and modernizing its air force with stealth fighters and long-range bombers

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All of which we have and do not need anything outside of our borders.

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Its only got a handful of bases outside of China but they definitely want to expand

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It has one. One in Africa. Just one.

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If you dont believe in the use of US military force outside of direct defense of the homeland then I can understand you not seeing the point of maintaining bases within NATO. 

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Eh, was a part of NATO forces for awhile. What I do know is that throughout all of history, forces based outside of their homeland, were seen as occupiers. This is the very main reason there are so many in the ME that hate us and those who do not hate us, barely stomach us for the money we give them. Growing our footprint, as well as NATO, lead directly the Russia/Ukraine. Russia responded exactly like we almost did during the missle crisis.

We cannot argue that we feel threatened by the presence of other militaries setting up near us. The opposite is also true. Historically, this has lead to instability, not stability.

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 I was just pointing out that we stand to lose a lot of our military capability

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We have a military budget larger than the next 10 combined. We are not losing our capability anytime soon.

Unless we wish to go full Roman. "Safety through expansion". Honestly, I have no problems with that, if that is what we decided to do. But hopefully our government and media would be honest about it and not feed us the MIC bullshite they are now. We are fully into exactly what Eisenhower warned us about, but it seems we are cool with it. I would rather we just say "frick it" if that's the case.

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War with Iran is a goal of the Deep State and globalists

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So, Iran's regime is not evil and we shouldn't depose them at the first chance?

To me communism is its own form of destructiveness but regimes like Nazi Germany, Iran or North Korea should be removed as soon as can be done. These groups are evil and completely life and freedom denying.

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It comes from prophecy and it doesn't matter what Russia can do today. We are talking about some time in the future.

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What prophecy? And is it a Dugin theory?

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What prophecy? And is it a Dugin theory?

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It involved Fatima AND Medjugorje.

The prophecy does not explicitly say exactly what Russia role would be as it all depend on the conversion of Russia. Russia will play a role according the prophecy, but that role depends on Russia's conversion. Some say it was converted others say only partially.

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Are NATO contributions based on population size of each country?

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Yes and no. Actual NATO contributions (i.e., to pay for overhead and office administrations, etc. at Brussels and other HQ's) are done proportionally, yes. We pay alot more of that, mostly because we staff and command all of those installations for the most part.

NATO Military spending requirement is not a "contribution." No nation pays any money to NATO for military operations--there is no common pot for that. They fund their OWN militaries as a percentage of their own GDP. The number was at 2% (with only a handful meeting it) over the past few decades. That is increasing to 3.5% (with countries starting to up their funding). An additional 1.5% is supposed to be spent on each country's OWN defense infrastructure (rail, ports, roads, air, etc.)

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Britain is the United States oldest enemy

Our first two wars were against them

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Achkshually, our first two wars (declared) were Britain and Mexico.

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The total foreign owned debt is around 9 trillion. The national debt is 38 trillion. Do you consider 9 trillion a small fraction or are my numbers wrong?

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Does less than 25% of the debt make or break our economy like was originally stated?