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What’s the difference between DACA and Dreamers?

Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:20 am
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:20 am
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There’s a lot of—there’s a lot of—there’s a big difference—first of all, there’s a big difference between DACA and Dreamers, OK? Dreamers are different. And I want American kids to be Dreamers also, by the way. I want American kids to be Dreamers also. But there’s a big difference between DACA and Dreamers. And a lot of times when I was with certain Democrats they kept using the word dreamer. I said, “Please, use the word DACA.” You know it’s a totally different word.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:22 am to
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Definition of dreamer

1: one that dreams

2a : one who lives in a world of fancy and imagination

b : one who has ideas or conceives projects regarded as impractical : visionary


Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:23 am to
Here’s a hint: He has, literally, no idea what either term means.
Posted by TigersInParis
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:23 am to
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And I want American kids to be Dreamers also, by the way.


And to think, this isn’t even in the top 3 of stupid as frick things Trump has said this week!
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:25 am to
Dreamers in the context of the bill are people who pay into DACA.

DACA isn’t a person, or group of people.

He wants American born kids to be Dreamers, because he has no idea what Dreamers means, or who Dreamers are.
Posted by MississippiLSUfan
Brookhaven
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:29 am to
Dreamers is a bullshite made up term to refer to ILLEGAL immigrants.

There ya go.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:36 am to
You’re correct, but only because your quoted statement wasn’t the least bit stupid at all


There’s unfortunately a pretty significant sense of hopelessness in a growing number of american cities. Trump’s trying to rebrand the term dreamer to include those kids coming from these broken american homes; convincing them to dream for something better is very badly need right now. Not sure why you thought this statement controversal or dimwitted
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:59 am to
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Dreamers in the context of the bill are people who pay into DACA.



It's a trick to rob whimsical hopeful words and assign them to shitty situations for some people...robbing the use of those terms for others...

That's his point...

He's saying frick context, I don't want to use that word for people in this situation.

Posted by kcon70
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:28 am to
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Dreamers is a bull shite made up term to refer to ILLEGAL immigrants.




I concur.

DACA is just as much of a joke. It needs to be merit based.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:32 am to
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Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:36 am to
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Errerrerrwere


Hey.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:52 am to
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Dreamers is a bullshite made up term to refer to ILLEGAL immigrants.

There ya go.


Like everything the vile prog/DEM/MSM cabal does, it is a feel-good term used to put lipstick on a pig.

The name of the Executive Order that Obama created was Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals = DACA. Now Pelosi refers to those effected as "so-called DACA kids. They are really dreamers"

Which side has the more legitimate argument as to what term best describes them. And I am talking about the 'real' world which sane people inhabit, not that alternate universe prog filth inhabit.

Yes - any true American wants American kids to be able to dream also. We don't want them to have to robbed of their dreams so that tens of thousands of illegal aliens can sneak in their entire family and change the American culture all for the benefit of Nancy Pelosi and her filthy sycophants.

I am sick to my stomach of this 'dreamer' bullshite. Call them Illegal Aliens and get their asses out of my country. Children have always been impacted by the shite-poor decisions made by their parents. Millions of American kids are disadvantaged by the shite-poor decisions their worthless parents have made under the constant prodding of the DEMOCRAT party and that is a big enough problem for the USA to work on. We don't need to solve the problems of 3rd world countries making shite-poor decisions by further infecting our already sick society.

FUKC em all. Get their asses out. Those who have actually benefitted from their illegal residence in America need to go back to wherever theri parents are from and help that shithole to become more like America. Those who have just sucked on the DEMOCRAT teat for their entire lives need to get their asses out of here and live with their parents there.

The ONLY thing DEMOCRATS want is to impoverish America so that their goal of 'equal misery for everyone' can be achieved.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:13 am to
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Dreamers in the context of the bill are people who pay into DACA.


How much do they pay? What does this mean?
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:41 am to
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How much do they pay? What does this mean?


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It costs $465 for first-time and renewal [every 2 years] applicants of DACA. The total fee includes a $380 filing fee for Form I-765 (one of the three forms that must be filed) and an $85 biometrics fee. The fee doesn't vary based on age, income, country of origin or current state of residence. It is $465 for everyone.


citizen path

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:45 am to
Dreamers are basically American citizens
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:07 am to
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Dreamers are basically American citizens


No - not in the least.

What they are are illegal aliens.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 7:08 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118850 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:51 am to
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It costs $465 for first-time and renewal [every 2 years] applicants of DACA.


Seems cheap.
Posted by FourThinInches
Dallas
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:54 am to
$465 bi-annual renewal for access to free government services, schools, etc.?!?! What a deal
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:55 am to
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FT


Perhaps you and your buddies could fix the problem. You could start by adopting one of these sweet, innocent souls. These "children" need you.

It would only take 700k families to take the initiative and this problem magically goes away.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140559 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:38 am to
You just suggested that a prog actually take action that doesn't include chanting and crying. Lol
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