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re: What’s a real conservative solution to fix healthcare?

Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:29 pm to
The Topic:
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What’s a real conservative solution to fix healthcare?


Your answer:
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Singapore takes mandatory deductions from workers' paychecks—around 20 percent of wages


Ummmm.....
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Now how to fix it?
• Increase the number of MDs in training.
• Eliminate government price fixing.
• Eliminate control restrictions of medical facilities by physicians.
• Eliminate CONs.
• Regulate insurance only insofar as ensuring promises made are delivered.
• Appeals for coverage heard by independent medical panels.
• Institute European-style med mal.
• Increase transparency to PI findings, Complication Rates, Procedure Numbers, Dr-Pt ratios, RN-Pt ratios, RN bedside time.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5912 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:36 pm to
Ummmm what? The shite ain't free. Not anywhere. It's a mandatory medical savings program, so that I'm not on the hook for every hard smoking, hard drinking, hard leg sumbitch in society.

The cost shifting ain't working!
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 3:38 pm
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5912 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:39 pm to
What percentage of your check is going to healthcare premiums?
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71342 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:40 pm to
You talking health care or insurance?
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5912 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:43 pm to
Read the post again. They lay it out. You use your savings for MediShield, which is their catastrophic insurance, or you can self-insure using the same funds. Between your medical savings and your premiums, I bet you're pretty close to 20% if your gross.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4981 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:43 pm to
Publically funded research results are in the public domain, like government employee work product.

Research papers are not copywritable, and published methods are not patentable.

Specific production processes are patentable, but not the simple existence of a product. (e.g. genes or other genetic or protein sequences)
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62051 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:45 pm to
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at the end of the day do you want what we have where I can see my GP any day if I need to without appointment


Who can do that?

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:47 pm to
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Publically funded research results are in the public domain, like government employee work product.

Research papers are not copywritable, and published methods are not patentable.

Specific production processes are patentable, but not the simple existence of a product. (e.g. genes or other genetic or protein sequences)
OK.
How does this address the OP question?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:48 pm to
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Who can do that?
Bingo.
We need to end government restrictions on MD training slots
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
897 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:59 pm to
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If you want to become quickly frustrated, next time you interface with the medical/industrial complex, ask them "Oh, BTW, how much does this thing that I'm about to get cost?". The very likely answer will be: "Oh, your co-pay is $30". "That's not what I'm asking. What is the actual price of this service?" They will stare at you blankly and you will realize they aren't acting...NOBODY frickING KNOWS.


I was recently in that situation. I asked the doctor what a procedure would cost. I explained I had a high deductible and needed to know. He asked me which insurance company and he said this is usually $500-$600. He was right.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86027 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:02 pm to
Free market care, not insurance.


Insurance should only be needed for very serious things.

I shouldn't need insurance for a broken finger.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13730 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

What percentage of your check is going to healthcare premiums?


Right at 2%.

Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19919 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:05 pm to
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Competition.

This is going to be really hard unless our anti-monopoly laws get a MASSIVE overhaul

Because they aren’t working at all
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:08 pm to
Some good answers. Anyone who doesn’t understand much about our healthcare system or the reasons why we spend so much on healthcare, only needs to understand this graph…


This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135592 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Some good answers. Anyone who doesn’t understand much about our healthcare system or the reasons why we spend so much on healthcare, only needs to understand this graph…



Indeed!
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• Increase the number of MDs in training.
• Eliminate government price fixing.
Eliminate control restrictions of medical facilities by physicians.
• Eliminate CONs.
• Regulate insurance only insofar as ensuring promises made are delivered.
• Appeals for coverage heard by independent medical panels.
• Institute European-style med mal.
• Increase transparency to PI findings, Complication Rates, Procedure Numbers, Dr-Pt ratios, RN-Pt ratios, RN bedside time.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27547 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:31 pm to
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We all can agree the ACA was a mess.

The ACA started as a Heritage Foundation proposal. It is a product of conservative think tanks.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53783 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:39 pm to
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Truth in billing would be a good start. The frickery with the wide variance in the cost of procedures/care is a problem. There is no standard.


If there was some way to administer healthcare without the 15-20% cost added due to insurance companies taking their cut that, that would help.

Utility companies are regulated to keep costs affordable for consumers, maybe each state should have some type of regulatory board for essential medical procedures and services?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135592 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:51 pm to
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The ACA started as a Heritage Foundation proposal. It is a product of conservative think tanks.
Good Lord!

Then you HAaATE it, right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135592 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

If there was some way to administer healthcare without the 15-20% cost added due to insurance companies taking their cut that, that would help.
DEregulate
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