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re: Whatever happened to the libertarians on this board?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:21 am to Eurocat
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:21 am to Eurocat
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Now it is filled with people being against sex outside of marriage, affairs, reading the "wrong" texts, not living a Christian life which is supposedly our foundation, etc.
You don't understand libertarianism. There is a difference between having a personal preference and wanting something to be illegal.
I don't use drugs. I don't advise that you use drugs. I don't want drugs illegal. It's the same with marital affairs, religion, etc.
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:48 am to SirWinston
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Many lukewarm libertarians like me abandoned Paul for Trump when we realized he was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I'll go back to that after Trump's glorious reign ends.
I think I agree with this.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:59 am to Tiguar
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you were a fricking borderline progressive before Trump
he voted for Obama twice
his shtick on here in nothing more than an act latching on to the new popular thing.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:03 am to MrCarton
quote:Hot tip: Read the post again.
Hot tip: Describing ANCAP as "utopian" is a sure fire way to indicate that you don't understand it.
If you still don't understand it, I'll be happy to discuss further.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:08 am to NC_Tigah
The board has definitely shifted in light of Trump. A lot of people have remain pretty staunchly libertarian on economic issues. On social issues though the board has shifted to be much more nationalist rather than libertarian.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:11 am to CorporateTiger
What about regarding the military?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:12 am to CorporateTiger
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On social issues though the board has shifted to be much more nationalist rather than libertarian.
What are the "nationalist" "social issues" on which you think "the board" now adheres?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
Closed borders and immigration.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:13 am to RCDfan1950
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'The enemy of your enemy is your friend', E. The Fascist Progs are the real enemy to your Freedom; and you either get on board with whomever is best equipped to whip them...or you stand on the side...in a close fight. Not rocket science.
You only say that because fascist progressives are setting their sights on what you perceive to be religious freedoms, first and foremost. I've lived in south Louisiana my entire life. I can't think of a single restriction to my freedom brought on by fascist progressives. The restrictions to my freedom brought on by religious conservatives are legion.
That's not to say that I won't be fighting them tooth and nail, because I will. But your kind isn't getting a pass, either
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:14 am to CorporateTiger
quote:In what way?
On social issues though the board has shifted to be much more nationalist rather than libertarian.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:15 am to Collegedropout
Are those "social issues"? What has changed with regard to "the board" on those, over say the past two years?
Maybe there's been more talk on it, but I don't recall a whole lot of big "open boarder" adherents here previously than there are now.
Maybe there's been more talk on it, but I don't recall a whole lot of big "open boarder" adherents here previously than there are now.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:19 am to NC_Tigah
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Thus far virtually everything Trump is doing or trying to do aligns with libertarian precepts. Undoing Obamacare, cutting taxes, reducing spending, boosting economic growth via the private sector, massive regulatory roll backs all jibe with libertarian viewpoints. It shouldn't be a surprise folks here support those policies.
these are all pretty standard conservative Republican policies
where Trump fails on libertarian views is military, border control, immigration, trade policy (though I agree with him here), appointment of Jeff Sessions
, etcPosted on 12/7/17 at 11:21 am to Salmon
quote:That's simply false.
where Trump fails on libertarian views is military, border control, immigration, trade policy
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:22 am to NC_Tigah
expound then
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:26 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Are those "social issues"?
I think so
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What has changed with regard to "the board" on those, over say the past two years?
My guess is the people who used to preach libertarianism sound more conservative these days and talk more about religion and nationalism and borders. It is just a guess, because this has happened to the libertarian movement worldwide for the past year or 2.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:27 am to Salmon
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border control, immigration
Libertarians are pretty conflicted on these issues.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:28 am to Collegedropout
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Libertarians are pretty conflicted on these issues.
I know. I don't know any libertarians that agree with the wall and travel bans loosely based on religion though .
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:28 am to Eurocat
Who cares, weirdos
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:29 am to Eurocat
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Whatever happened to the libertarians on this board?
Present
It's hard to notice because the 2 sides have gotten so ardent in their ideologies that typically libertarians get blasted as one or the other.
If you get called a hippie liberal and a redneck Republican in the same day, you're probably a libertarian.
That being said, Progs have gotten so ridiculously dimwitted since the election that it's open season on calling out their bullshite and I find myself doing that more than anything else.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:31 am to MrCarton
quote:So what? Pretend those laws don't exist and we live in libertopia. That doesn't give me recourse if my neighbor wants to sell their house to an immigrant. Maybe in cookie-cutter subdivisions owned by a single developer but that doesn't describe most of Houston proper and doesn't alter the gentrification cycles of the urban cores. (Plus redlining really only took off once it was institutionalized by the HOLC/FHA which would never have existed.)
But to answer your question, there are many laws against discrimination against others when conducting business, specifically selling real estate. Those laws aren't merely suggestions.
And even the fantasy of perfectly segregated neighborhoods governed by Hoppean HOAs doesn't rid you of "different cultures living in a single society" because "society" is a hell of a lot broader than your zip code.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 11:34 am
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