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What will it take for the people to trust the voting process again?
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:01 am
The last measurement was that 83% of the voters no longer Trust the process.
Let's just move that down to 50%. Half the nation no longer has the confidence in what is happening. Let's talk solutions.
1- Paper ballots. Ok... How do you count them effectively and efficiently? Lay that out.
2- Signature verification with finger print. How do you determine if not by machine? Maybe scan your finger print and you get your ballot on match. or by signature? Lay that out.
3- Allow for an election celebration. Friday-Sunday is a national holiday? Must vote in person. How to reduce the wait times? Maybe:
Friday- Names ending from A-P
Saturday- Q - Z
Sunday- Make up day.
Let's just move that down to 50%. Half the nation no longer has the confidence in what is happening. Let's talk solutions.
1- Paper ballots. Ok... How do you count them effectively and efficiently? Lay that out.
2- Signature verification with finger print. How do you determine if not by machine? Maybe scan your finger print and you get your ballot on match. or by signature? Lay that out.
3- Allow for an election celebration. Friday-Sunday is a national holiday? Must vote in person. How to reduce the wait times? Maybe:
Friday- Names ending from A-P
Saturday- Q - Z
Sunday- Make up day.
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Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:03 am to Jjdoc
Complete transparency of the vote counting and election officials. It’s not the illegal voting that’s killing us, it’s the crooked counters and those overseeing voting.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:15 am to Jjdoc
You must have proof of who you are and that you belong here. Paper ballots. If you have to make precincts smaller, do it. No more hanging chad crap. If the machine kicks it out, look for the obvious. If you’re too stupid to fill out a paper ballot, you’re too stupid to vote. Absentee voting should be difficult to do, you should have a valid reason. You have a couple of days to vote, period.
Throw out all of the other made up crap.
Throw out all of the other made up crap.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:16 am to Jjdoc
The system must be fully auditable and transparent.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:17 am to Jjdoc
Unfortunately, it is increasingly looking like we are past the point that it matters.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:17 am to Jjdoc
quote:
What will it take for the people to trust the voting process again?
Idiot Democrats never winning any race ever again.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:17 am to Jjdoc
Cut down on the universe of persons who are eligible to vote.
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:20 am to Jjdoc
5 consecutive terms of a strong conservative president.....and that is almost impossible.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:27 am to Jjdoc
You have to have single day voting and the process has to be run by volunteers (representatives from both parties at each precinct), not beurocrats.
I have worked elections, and when it's done correctly, it is nearly impossible to have any wide scale fraud. And it really isn't that big of a deal.
Unfortunately the other side simply doesn't want things to be fair and transparent. It's somehow an "attack on democracy"
I have worked elections, and when it's done correctly, it is nearly impossible to have any wide scale fraud. And it really isn't that big of a deal.
Unfortunately the other side simply doesn't want things to be fair and transparent. It's somehow an "attack on democracy"
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:36 am to Jjdoc
quote:
1- Paper ballots. Ok... How do you count them effectively and efficiently?
doesn't matter - that is the only answer.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:37 am to Cajun Tigah
quote:
You must have proof of who you are and that you belong here. Paper ballots. If you have to make precincts smaller, do it. No more hanging chad crap. If the machine kicks it out, look for the obvious. If you’re too stupid to fill out a paper ballot, you’re too stupid to vote. Absentee voting should be difficult to do, you should have a valid reason. You have a couple of days to vote, period.
Throw out all of the other made up crap
/\ hard to improve on that /\
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:41 am to burger bearcat
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attack on democracy
I literally hate that phrase - and I immediately suspect the character of any unknown person who uses it.
We are not a democracy - every aspect of our founding and the first 200 years of our existence loathed the idea of 'democracy' = because that invariable devolves into "mob rule'.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:43 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
We are not a democracy - every aspect of our founding and the first 200 years of our existence loathed the idea of 'democracy' = because that invariable devolves into "mob rule'.
We are now. Whether you like it or not.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:43 am to ChineseBandit58
France uses paper ballots in its national elections and counts all votes in the same day, as recently as this year. Identification (passport) is required at the time of voting.
No more simultaneous 'stop counting' when the Hillary Clinton donor on Fox News gives the signal, then start "recounting" in the middle of the night.
No more simultaneous 'stop counting' when the Hillary Clinton donor on Fox News gives the signal, then start "recounting" in the middle of the night.
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 11:52 am
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:43 am to Jjdoc
Paper ballots with all of the security features of a $100 bill is a place to start. Banks electronically counting money spot a counterfeit right away.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:51 am to Jjdoc
Start with everyone purging their voter rolls.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 12:09 pm to Jjdoc
Everyone votes the way I have to vote. In person. Name in the register. Show ID. Sign register.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 12:21 pm to Jjdoc
Severe felonies for poll workers cheating and for conspiracy to cheat.
Pull the curtain back on 2020 and parade them out so that we may see them.
Pull the curtain back on 2020 and parade them out so that we may see them.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 12:26 pm to Jjdoc
First thing is to eliminate harvesting. It's going to "disenfranchise" some, but vote security has to be paramount. With that, absentee ballots should be restricted to members of the military and those working overseas on election day (as verified by their employer).
Anyone else? It's your responsibility to legally submit your vote. As part of the balance for this I would rather see Election Day as a national holiday where ALL businesses are urged to close for the day. If it becomes so popular that some places cannot get their voter lines handled within that day, those places stay open until all votes are cast (ie: no lines). Those places would then get an extra day prior to Election Day in the next cycle.
Ballots should be submitted via paper ballot. These are far easier to count and harder to play electronic games with. Any ballots where someone made a mistake (checked two candidates in the same race, for example) are considered void. If someone can't fill out a fricking ballot correctly, they don't deserve to have their vote counted (as part of the balance on this, ballots should be very intuitive to understand).
That's it. Do that and while continuing to have both parties overseeing ballot counting in each precinct and you remove the majority of potential for shenanigans.
Also, anyone caught purposely attempting to defraud the process loses their voting rights for life.
Anyone else? It's your responsibility to legally submit your vote. As part of the balance for this I would rather see Election Day as a national holiday where ALL businesses are urged to close for the day. If it becomes so popular that some places cannot get their voter lines handled within that day, those places stay open until all votes are cast (ie: no lines). Those places would then get an extra day prior to Election Day in the next cycle.
Ballots should be submitted via paper ballot. These are far easier to count and harder to play electronic games with. Any ballots where someone made a mistake (checked two candidates in the same race, for example) are considered void. If someone can't fill out a fricking ballot correctly, they don't deserve to have their vote counted (as part of the balance on this, ballots should be very intuitive to understand).
That's it. Do that and while continuing to have both parties overseeing ballot counting in each precinct and you remove the majority of potential for shenanigans.
Also, anyone caught purposely attempting to defraud the process loses their voting rights for life.
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