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What states, historically, have the best state-level governments/management?

Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:24 pm
We all know the states with the worst state level govts: NJ, Illinois, Louisiana.

What are states that are the opposite aka very well run?

My opinion: New Hampshire, Utah, the dakotas, Iowa
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6364 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:29 pm to
NH


Everyone else
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14469 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:29 pm to
Texas seems to do ok
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19213 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:31 pm to
Virginia, historically.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3491 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:33 pm to
Nope, too late for Texas. With over 50% of grade school children being hispanic, that state is done for. The expenses for Texas will be greater than the intake, quickly.

We need to try and stem the tide of ILLEGAL immigrants in as many states as possible. It's too late to save Texas.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:34 pm to
Texas' results, considering it's size, complexity and demographics, speak for themselves.

NH and Vermont have impressive results, but they are very small, lily-white states with simple, straightforward economic environments. Utah is a slightly more diverse, slightly larger version of those.

From an outsider's perspective, Tennessee seems to do fairly well at the State level.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:36 pm to
People have mentioned TX and Virginia (though that's a lot of federal $).

I'll add in Indiana.

Bond ratings are a pretty decent proxy:

State bond ratings on wikipedia
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19209 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:44 pm to
for those of you saying Texas... you're partially right and moreso very, very wrong.

My fine state does well DESPITE state government. The Governor has very little power. The combined body has very little power. The only time Texans are in peril is when the lackies are in session.

So you are right that we are sitting pretty, but it's because of the lack of teeth for the state governmental bodies.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17472 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:59 pm to
Louisiana
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16279 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:01 pm to
You can't have this discussion without Mississippi. It's not just the state level though. From governor down to aldermen, supervisors, and school boards I'd wager heavily on historically the most crooks per capita there.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:03 pm to
I'll say the Midwest states.

True story. I once worked with a guy from Kansas. His theory was the road system in Charleston was drawn up by a drunk Mexican.

I think he showed me some numbers from the Kansas state highway budget to contrast with the South Carolina one. For a place where you get serious freeze/thaw cycles they were one heck of a lot more efficient in spending money than we were.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:06 pm to
I'm pretty happy with Alabama since 2010. Would put it near the bottom prior to the upheaval that happened during that year. They've gotten better and better ever since.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12094 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

NH


Everyone else

Only if the formula doesn’t include fricking with an individual’s rights.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:11 pm to
Texas does well because of past leadership and the state's resources. The huge abundance of oil revenue helps fund public education and why their bonds have a AAA rating. Whomever setup the texas school fund should get all the rep for that because it has likely saved the municipalities hundreds of billions in totality because of lowered interest rates. at one point those bonds had a better credit rating than the US government.

My vote is Tenner, NH, and Colorado.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19942 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

for those of you saying Texas... you're partially right and moreso very, very wrong.

My fine state does well DESPITE state government. The Governor has very little power. The combined body has very little power. The only time Texans are in peril is when the lackies are in session.

So you are right that we are sitting pretty, but it's because of the lack of teeth for the state governmental bodies.


I think you are making a point you did not intend to make.

The less government, the better. Make sure streets are paved and safe, clean water comes out of the faucets, and fires are put out.

There's a darn good reason a Texas state legislator makes only $7,200 per year (as opposed to California's 110K) and meets only every other year for a total of 140 days (as opposed to California, where it is a full time job): You are expected to make your living doing a real job and only do what is necessary as a legislator.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15144 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:20 pm to
Texas. It’s a well run country
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:21 pm to
There are twice as many reps in Texas as California yet 12 million less people in Texas. When you have that many reps yes it will be a part time job because you reduce the workload.
Posted by joshwj93
Member since Feb 2019
627 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

You can't have this discussion without Mississippi. It's not just the state level though. From governor down to aldermen, supervisors, and school boards I'd wager heavily on historically the most crooks per capita there

So there's this place called Louisiana, you may have heard of it...
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16279 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:35 pm to
I'll defer to tie.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:37 pm to
The ones with few minorities and little tourism.
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