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What many here are missing about the Democrat that makes it out of the primary.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:21 am
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:21 am
We spend a great deal of time talking about who and who won't vote for a certain candidate if they make it out of the primary. But we forget the main thing about Democrats. Unlike the GOP, the majority of them will vote for anyone or anything that has a D behind their name. Not many Democrats were enthusiastic about Doug Jones or Jon Bel Edwards, but that didn't stop them from loading up on buses and voting for them in droves.
I think Trump wins this election in a similar way that he beat Hilary, but to think the Dems will splinter because of their candidate is naive.
I think Trump wins this election in a similar way that he beat Hilary, but to think the Dems will splinter because of their candidate is naive.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:33 am to saints5021
I don't think that is the case for a lot of Democrats in the midwest/great lakes states (Ohio, Penn, Wisconsin, Minn., Michigan) Trump didn't win OH, PA, WI and MI by just racking up GOP support. He won by the either converting some D voters or those D voters staying home because they didn't want to vote for HRC.
In 2016 the Democrats could legitimately run on the fear of the unknown of a Trump presidency. Now, 4 years later, the economy is soaring and despite the media desperately trying to tell you otherwise, none of the cataclysmic prophecies of Trump presidency came true.
What is their candidate going to try to sell now? That the economy is bad? That WWIII with NK, Russia, Iran, etc is just around the corner? That the Russians are significantly interfering in the election again despite every fricking bozo in congress and the media purportedly watching for it with extreme diligence?
The Democrats lost an "unloseable" election in 2016 because the refused to listen to people outside the liberal enclaves on the east and west coasts. So their strategy in 2020? Double-down on telling Americans in "fly over" states just how stupid and helpless they are.
In 2016 the Democrats could legitimately run on the fear of the unknown of a Trump presidency. Now, 4 years later, the economy is soaring and despite the media desperately trying to tell you otherwise, none of the cataclysmic prophecies of Trump presidency came true.
What is their candidate going to try to sell now? That the economy is bad? That WWIII with NK, Russia, Iran, etc is just around the corner? That the Russians are significantly interfering in the election again despite every fricking bozo in congress and the media purportedly watching for it with extreme diligence?
The Democrats lost an "unloseable" election in 2016 because the refused to listen to people outside the liberal enclaves on the east and west coasts. So their strategy in 2020? Double-down on telling Americans in "fly over" states just how stupid and helpless they are.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:34 am to saints5021
Considering the Dim candidates, a glass of water with "D" label would be an improvement.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:37 am to Sidicous
The glass of water is incapable of committing gaffes, unlike the candidates.
For example, Bloomberg doing a selfie with someone by saying “Stop and frisk!” instead of “cheese!”
For example, Bloomberg doing a selfie with someone by saying “Stop and frisk!” instead of “cheese!”
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:07 am to saints5021
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Unlike the GOP, the majority of them will vote for anyone or anything that has a D behind their name.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:09 am to teke184
Just my .02...while I do not disagree with the OP premise, I think a few things come into play.
First, if it is not bernie, there is a faction that simply will not vote.
Second, I think the minority changeover is real. A certain percentage will not vote and others will now vote for Trump.
I agree that the ones who are D will vote D regardless ...if they bother to vote, with the exception of the small percentage of minorities now voting for Trump who did not before.
First, if it is not bernie, there is a faction that simply will not vote.
Second, I think the minority changeover is real. A certain percentage will not vote and others will now vote for Trump.
I agree that the ones who are D will vote D regardless ...if they bother to vote, with the exception of the small percentage of minorities now voting for Trump who did not before.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:11 am to saints5021
Right now the issue isn’t whether or not Dems will vote for anyone but how many of them will vote at all. Enthusiasm is low and many already think Trump will win so it isn’t likely that turnout will be good enough, no matter who they put up against Trump.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:14 am to saints5021
Why do the dims even go through the "voting" process? They name whoever they want anyway, the voters have no say
Doomberg can just buy his way in and your votes in Iowa and New Hampshire don't matter Stupid dims
Doomberg can just buy his way in and your votes in Iowa and New Hampshire don't matter Stupid dims
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:20 am to saints5021
Correct. Trump will win but it won’t be in a landslide, as many of us (myself included) have joked about in the past. I’d expect a similar electoral count as last time.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:23 am to TDsngumbo
I'm going with Trump wins the popular vote as well, this time.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:30 am to saints5021
Forced confiscation and redistribution of wealth is the single issue for the vast majority of Dem voters, and every.single.candidate they put up in every local, state, and national election is on board with that, every time. It’s Marxism and it is their platform.
When none of your voters disagree with the economic enslavement of others it’s easy to get block voting.
This is also why I don’t ever believe people who move from the Dem party to the GOP. If you thought it was acceptable for the government to confiscate more and more of my income, I doubt you had a change of heart.
When none of your voters disagree with the economic enslavement of others it’s easy to get block voting.
This is also why I don’t ever believe people who move from the Dem party to the GOP. If you thought it was acceptable for the government to confiscate more and more of my income, I doubt you had a change of heart.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:36 am to saints5021
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I think Trump wins this election in a similar way that he beat Hilary, but to think the Dems will splinter because of their candidate is naive
Trump was an unknown in 2016. Many people saw him just as a blow hard confidence man with no experience in government. Many people didn't vote for him simply for that reason. I think now, given the state of the economy and what he has accomplished, he is the safer choice for president.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:36 am to saints5021
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I think Trump wins this election in a similar way that he beat Hilary, but to think the Dems will splinter because of their candidate is naive.
Not sure I agree, with the X Factor being Bernie Sanders supporters. Sanders is in even better position to win the nomination in 2020 than he was in 2016. If the Democrat Establishment screws Bernie this time, I have a feeling that the party's convention in Milwaukee could get UGLY.
I could foresee this being a huge problem for the Democrats. That's why I want Bernie to do well in these upcoming primaries.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:37 am to saints5021
~30% of Bernie supporters will not vote for a candidate other than Bernie.
~20% of black voters won't vote for someone with the background that Bloomberg has.
Bernie likely cant beat Trump.
If all of these things are true, how can Trump lose?
~20% of black voters won't vote for someone with the background that Bloomberg has.
Bernie likely cant beat Trump.
If all of these things are true, how can Trump lose?
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 9:39 am
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:43 am to SirWinston
Because they are "likely" and statistical probabilities but far from TRUTH. A lot can change.
Not to get all "Q" but I suspect by this summer, before the election, some big things are planned that will be beneficial to Trump and republicans and detrimental to democrats and the deep state.
That is my hope...anyway.
Not to get all "Q" but I suspect by this summer, before the election, some big things are planned that will be beneficial to Trump and republicans and detrimental to democrats and the deep state.
That is my hope...anyway.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:20 am to dafif
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First, if it is not bernie, there is a faction that simply will not vote.
Converse is probably true as well. If it IS Bernie, there will be D's that abstain or stay home.
The sorry lot of democrat presidential hopefuls will keep a lot of liberal voters home.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:20 am to saints5021
Whats it looking like for the libertarian ticket?
Is anyone running this year that will get any kinds of votes?
You have to be some kind of special retard to vote libertarian.
Is anyone running this year that will get any kinds of votes?
You have to be some kind of special retard to vote libertarian.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:21 am to saints5021
There could be a Bernie bro vs Mayo pete riot and they will all coalesce by October of 2020.
They all have to take the OMB down.
They all have to take the OMB down.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:23 am to SirWinston
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~30% of Bernie supporters will not vote for a candidate other than Bernie.
~20% of black voters won't vote for someone with the background that Bloomberg has.
Bernie likely cant beat Trump.
If all of these things are true, how can Trump lose?
Over 90% of Bernie voters went to Hillary in 2016. A higher percentage than Hillary voters that went to Obama in 2008.
The revolutionaries will vote for whoever their overlords tell them to vote for.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:39 am to YF12
Yah but that wont happen again, there will be blood in the water this time. especially after Trump has presided over a booming economy and no new foreign entanglements
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