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re: What is your opinion of Robert Kennedy Jr ?

Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:19 am to
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Imagine thinking abortion is actually in the top 100 problems we have in this country. I think looking at poverty, crime, education, welfare/entitlements and other statistics one could argue we don't have enough abortions.


If you cannot see the significance of someone advocating for something that is literally state sanctioned murder (abortion at birth), then I think we as a country have bigger problems.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11058 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:20 am to
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maybe you shoulda been aborted loser. since you love baby killing so much.


I'm self sufficient and not on every single welfare/entitlement program like the people who keep spitting out kids who grow up to be criminals and ruin schools and everything else. I'm the one paying for it

Get out of here with that bullshite. We need more abortions or this country will have an even bigger Welfare/Entitlement state than we have already which is paid by....you guessed it responsible Americans taxes.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89273 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:21 am to
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If you cannot see the significance of someone advocating for something that is literally state sanctioned murder (abortion at birth), then I think we as a country have bigger problems.


ron ricks is one of the biggest POS on this site. he is a liberal democrat like jon spam was. posing as a GOPe. actually jon spam was posing as a ronbot and had fooled many into following him. it was a sad sight to see.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11058 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:22 am to
Abortion is about problem #998 we have right now. Think this through. Not aborting unwanted children has destroyed every sector of society. We do not need 'more' unwanted children who are growing up off of backs of American taxpayers. Only a god damn idiot thinks we should ban abortion.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11058 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:24 am to
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Fat Bastard


Anyone on here who doesn't bend the knee to Trump is considered a 'lib' or 'dem' to you. That logic is so low iq its not even worth typing out.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3186 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:04 pm to
I disagree with him on some matters, but don't think he's terrible. If he were president, my biggest concern would be gun rights (A big concern, for sure, but I think he has recently stated that he has reappraised his own position on this and going after guns wouldn't be a priority. Whether that's true or not is debatable.). Otherwise, I don't think he would actively want to disempower and destroy the middle class the way Obama and Biden have. In summary, as a matter of an America first agenda, I think he's a lukewarm ally... along the lines of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. He has some potential to do good work and I don't think he's a puppet to his party.

I look at his drug years with sympathy-- not condemnation. He was 14 when his father, who was running for president, was assassinated... just a few years after his uncle was assassinated. It is perhaps not too surprising that he turned to drugs and apparently acted out enough to get kicked out of a couple of boarding schools by the time he was 16, and had to finish high school living with a surrogate family (per the early life section of his bio on Wikipedia).
Wikipedia

Does this make his decade + of being a drug addict okay? No, but it is a more understandable context that he fell into heavy drug use after rushing to the bedside of his dying father vs him just being a spoiled prep school kid acting like a douche for no reason. Fwiw, my father died when I was 14, too, so I have some perspective on how it feels and, no, I did not use drugs at all following my father's death, so I repeat that it doesn't make it okay-- just more understandable. But I also wasn't part of a hyper political family that critiqued my every action and I didn't have to become cynical about the motives of everyone around me because of my last name.

In the context of his personal loss and descent into turmoil, his character arc of becoming an attorney and activist once he cleaned up is right out of Hollywood, stereotypically appropriate. Of course he became an activist. And while I might not agree with some of his earlier aims, it's a more interesting story than him being a typically bland limousine liberal (a la Thunberg). I don't know anything in depth about his work, but find it somewhat interesting that his efforts appeared to move from what I would assume was generic environmental work towards something that seems more tangible and threatening: the collusion of big pharma and federal agencies to cover up damage by unsafe products. If given room to operate, I think he would do good work for society / humanity here.

I take issue with the one thought (being charitable) critiques that seek to dismiss RFK Jr because he did drugs or some other item from his past. This type of (not) thinking is an impediment to critical thinking and discernment. It falls right into the typical Left, Alinsky-esque tactic of tarring your opponent with a slandererous label of sorts to ridicule and minimize them. It's the same thing they keep doing to Trump... "You can't vote for Trump because he ____!" (Fill in the blank with convicted felon, is a threat to democracy, or the slur du jour since the debate that he's a liar.) They discourage critically thinking about Trump as a person on the one hand. On the other, they ignore the countless lies Biden tells as they continue to try and prop up a more complex, human picture of him. If you think it's BS when they do this to Trump, you should perhaps question that tactic being applied to RFK Jr... it's lazy thinking at best, and is probably being urged by Dem operatives who don't want RFK Jr to be considered a viable alternative to Biden or whoever they insert in his place... He may pull some votes from Trump, but I think he's more likely to pull more away from Biden if he's considered viable.

Some people change for the better as they grow up, some for the worse. From my limited perspective, I think RFK Jr has changed for the better. And I don't think he would be a puppet for deep state interests... I think he probably kinda hates the Deep State and thinks them complicit in some of his family tragedies. To be clear, I'm going to vote for Trump. But for anyone who misses the political civility between parties from past decades (that appears to have been intentionally eroded to weaken the US for Agenda 2030 aims), anyone from either side of the aisle (Trump, RFK Jr, Vivek (who I also like but don't fully trust), etc.) that is not a controlled candidate should be looked at thoughtfully and not summarily dismissed.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116746 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:09 pm to
His history indicates that he is mentally unstable. Not stupid. Simply untrustworthy.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26331 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:21 pm to
Same guy that said the South needed to be reprogrammed?

Hard pass
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25035 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:07 pm to
I have seen him go after them pretty good in those hearings
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85370 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:10 pm to
The only thing in what you wrote that makes me feel favorable about him is he loves women. That’s VERY rare with Dempuffs.

He has very, very bad ideas. But he also has integrity.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13760 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:13 pm to
Don't like him. His loony and quite frankly.... could you imagine having to listen to that voice for more than a couple minutes at a time? Granted he can't help the voice thing... but still....
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13760 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:15 pm to
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We need more abortions or this country or this country will have an even bigger Welfare/Entitlement state


So the official ronricks position is that to end welfare and entitlement, we need to murder more people.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19416 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:16 pm to
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His own family isn’t even voting for him.

That may be an endorsement
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78142 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:23 pm to
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Get out of here with that bullshite. We need more abortions or this country will have an even bigger Welfare/Entitlement state
Instead of killing, you could just cut the entitlements. You'd be surprised how many will find work when there isn't tens of thousands of dollars incentivuzing them to do nothing.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2457 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:26 pm to
So you listed shite given to him because he is American royalty with that last name.

WTF has the dude done that merits being qualified?

I'll wait.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:28 pm to
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What is your opinion of Robert Kennedy Jr ?


He's a nut.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11058 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:32 pm to
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So the official ronricks position is that to end welfare and entitlement, we need to murder more people.




No. My position is to not expand the Welfare/Entitlement State to even larger than it currently is (which btw is unsustainable) is to not force people to have unwanted babies. What you want to do is expand the Welfare and Entitlement State. I do not give one single frick if the two biggest abusers of these 'programs' which are rural whites and urban blacks abort their unborn 'babies'. I do not care if someone I don't know and will never know aborts their unwanted kid that I and other high income earners will pay for via taxes. No thanks. If you want these low IQ kids born then start adopting them.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13760 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:34 pm to
I mean... you can roll your eyes and all that... but in the end, your position is that murdering other humans is an acceptable means to ending welfare and entitlement.

But yeah, roll your eyes some more there, little man.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11058 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:36 pm to
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you could just cut the entitlements


Nobody has done this since the invention of the Welfare State in this country. And by cut I mean completely eliminate. There isn't a politician alive that can do this and still win so it won't happen. Rural politicians can't advocate for it nor can urban ones. They lose all their votes.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11058 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:39 pm to
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But yeah, roll your eyes some more there, little man.


I will roll them at an imbecile whose stance would only increase the Welfare/Entitlement State. Going by statistics it will also increase things like crime, poor public schools, increase healthcare costs, increase our prison populations, etc.
I'm not saying what I am positing is roses and tulips its actually pretty harsh but again - looking at the actual statistics and what we know banning abortion would completely overwhelm our already gigantic Welfare State. If you want to pay for all that be my guest but I don't want to.
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