re: What is the difference between a MAGA and mainstream Republican?

I've had a BIG problem with Biden that dates back at least 25 years. Other than the fact that he is full of shite has always been full of shite and will stab you in the back while telling you he's sympathetic to you. He's a real mensch. I actually met him twice. Once in Baton Rouge when he was running for President in 1988 and I thought he was too much the politician. fricker supported both sides at the same time. Another time about 12-13 years later as I was working for a NY law firm and we had some problems with a " Delaware based" corporation who was playing fast and lose with SEC rules. He acted shocked and said he would get down to the bottom of it. He sure did.....the said corporation funneled 6 figures to him and he forgot our names and his office stopped taking our calls. That's when I really started to dislike him, so I'm the furthest from an arterial bleed liberal.

I also have known people from the Trump Organization some who worked for him and some who at the time still worked for him....I left NYC in 2014 and they to a person said that Trump would follow up a big victory by doing something incredibly stupid that left them scrambling to clean up his mess.

He's undisciplined. Yes good at making deals initially, but where he fricks up is in two departments.Winning the deal is not good enough, he thinks that it gives him license to the interpret the rules as he sees fit in terms of the details and it lands him in hot water because he doesn't let the people he hires do their jobs. He undercuts them sometimes he would say and support positions that ran counter to the deal and at times the law and he would have to be reined in . Or he would hire a guy like Michael Cohen who at times did not know what he was doing. In New York, stories about him almost fricking up deals with his mouth were legend. Some of the crap he pulled with the casinos while ultimately right almost landed him in hot water because he could not control his mouth or his ego.

I had dinner with a big player in NYC who told a few of us when we were discussing the Trump Organization that Donald could be worth substantially more than what he was, but that they were always hesitant to extend him too much because he was undisciplined.

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He's undisciplined. Yes good at making deals initially, but where he fricks up is in two departments.Winning the deal is not good enough, he thinks that it gives him license to the interpret the rules as he sees fit in terms of the details and it lands him in hot water because he doesn't let the people he hires do their jobs. He undercuts them sometimes he would say and support positions that ran counter to the deal and at times the law and he would have to be reined in . Or he would hire a guy like Michael Cohen who at times did not know what he was doing. In New York, stories about him almost fricking up deals with his mouth were legend. Some of the crap he pulled with the casinos while ultimately right almost landed him in hot water because he could not control his mouth or his ego.

I had dinner with a big player in NYC who told a few of us when we were discussing the Trump Organization that Donald could be worth substantially more than what he was, but that they were always hesitant to extend him too much because he was undisciplined.

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Without a doubt. But do you honestly think, even if he was disciplined, he would have had any better luck? Trump came in as an interruptor. No one else in the republican party has dared to play that part. None will.

There are a number of issues that are diminishing this country. Trump was willing to address a few of them. The rest just talk and spend. Trump was far from perfect, but he was and remains probably the only option on the table offered by the political process. (Until the left's courts take that away, too.)

MAGA republicans will never vote for an establishment fk ever again.

That's me. I will never vote for a career politician unless they're flawless and even then I will never judge them except by their actions in office, if elected.

Backbone?
Testosterone?
Actual love of country, as opposed to political power?

Then if you would please go let Joe Biden know that so he can stop being so hysterical and paranoid over the MAGA.

Disciplined people understand consistency and tend to not make stupid mistakes. The actions leading up to Peach Mint I come to mind, but also they tend to hire people they listen to especially if you are paying them for advice.

So I think he would fare better if he did not have a penchant for deciding that people that he hires are stupid. He had Rex Tillerson as his SOS. Tillerson is an extremely smart and capable person who deals with politicians all over the world when he was CEO of Exxon. He undercut Tillerson, talked behind his back. Would say X was the policy, Tillerson would say X is the policy, then Trump would say without telling Tillerson, no, I never said that , Y is where we are going. Or, he hires Jeff Sessions whom many said would fold like a cheap suit under pressure as AG. Numerous other examples.

Disciplined people know when to keep their mouthed shut when they need to. Trump reminded me of my middle son who always thought he had to have the last word. He did it so much that for a while none of his other siblings or friends wanted anything to do because he just would not shut up and let the other guy make a mistake

Sometimes its as though he lives by the mantra If anyone is going to make a mistake, I'm going to be the one to do it.

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Mainstream:
White collar
College degree
Christian
Button down shirt and slacks

MAGA:
Blue collar
Vocational or HS diploma
Wife beaters and jorts

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I've always suspected much of "Never Trumpism" was rooted in a lot of deep seeded insecurity.

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MAGA Republicans want checks and balances and to clear up the federal government.

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Mainstream Republicans just want to know if the check has cleared.

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This is the best description of the 2 types of Republicans I've ever heard! Thanks for that...

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Mainstream:
White collar
College degree
Christian
Button down shirt and slacks

MAGA:
Blue collar
Vocational or HS diploma
Wife beaters and jorts

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Is that you, Don Lemon? Rick Wilson?

All you leftists love your stereotypes, -ists, and -isms.