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re: What is keeping the stock market up?

Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:34 am to
Monopoly Money. As far as the eye can see.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3691 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:37 am to
Money be like

Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:44 am to
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What is keeping the stock market up?


Really?

Artificial interest rates + QE

People don't have to work anymore, haven't you heard?

The financial system isn't meant to last i.e. using interest attached to the money supply. Its about how big you make the system before the reset.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52923 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:46 am to
Inflation
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7316 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:47 am to
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What is keeping the stock market up?

People are buying stocks.
Posted by Sail33or
Member since Jan 2021
145 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:49 am to
This is the single reason that social unrest and all that goes with it does "NOT" happen.

Middle Class will take shots, masks, unequal justice, stolen elections, millions entering the country and anything shoved up their arse as long as their 401K's are going up.

We are sell outs. Dems will keep interest rates at ZERO so Tech Companies can expand and dominate. Then INFLATION will kill all small business so soon there will be only Amazon and Giant Corporations.

Notice Exxon was removed from the Dow Index of Companies. There was a reason for this.

It is all controlled. The rich will short stocks at some point before they buy them back. We deserve everything we get for being simpletons.

Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10327 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:51 am to
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The fed doesn’t want to make Biden look bad, just like they didn’t want to make Trump look good.



Not an expert on this subject, so explain it to me like I'm 5. Does this mean inflation will get out of control through the winter?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50962 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:57 am to
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FYI, Folks with large cash positions are likely to see a buying opportunity subsequent to a 3-5% pullback at some point in the next few weeks.
My gut said that 5 months ago, but I stuck with it and as a result my portfolio has still increased by 13% since then. I don't know what the compounded annual rate of growth would be based on that growth, but I was fully expecting negative gains and willing to ride it out. I'm starting to get that same gut feelz that it's time to pull back, take a cash position, and be prepared to get some super deals. Historically, my (informed) gut has been right probably 75% of the time. Right now, I'm probably 50% there to pulling the trigger and dump stocks. This administration is in a boat race to collapse the economy.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10327 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:01 am to
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This is the single reason that social unrest and all that goes with it does "NOT" happen.

Middle Class will take shots, masks, unequal justice, stolen elections, millions entering the country and anything shoved up their arse as long as their 401K's are going up.


I guess this explains the phenomenon of the white collar professionals gravitating to vote Democrat.

A guy I know I went to HS with, fits this description to a tee. In his 30's and married, but no kids and no plans to have kids. An atheist, and the only thing he cares about is his stock portfolio. Doesn't seem interested in a better society, and way of life for people, as he has enough money to live in a nice condo and travel and have expensive gadgets. Big Biden supporter.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50962 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:01 am to
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The Fed can’t afford the interest payments on the massive debt. Rates rise their probability of default increases.
Replace with USA
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:03 am to
I'm just waiting on the day everyone's stock portfolios is at all time high and they go into Walmart and there isn't anything there.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27582 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:05 am to
Worldwide economic recovery after Covid shut down. No where to go but up.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3261 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:06 am to
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Smoke & mirrors


... and the ease of investing today for everyday amateurs like me. Unfortunately, many not like me are "investing" in stocks as a form of online gambling.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:06 am to
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Replace with USA


The system is based on attaching interest to the money supply, so when money is created the interest is not. If the money supply doesn't increase at an exponential rate the collapse starts.

The Fed can buy bonds at will, of course something else will probably break but as long as the U.S. Congress expands the ability for the government to borrow there is no risk of default by the U.S. government.



This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 8:09 am
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3261 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:08 am to
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I'm just waiting on the day everyone's stock portfolios is at all time high and they go into Walmart and there isn't anything there.



Nice line!
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 8:17 am
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4036 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:08 am to
The Fed
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9633 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:08 am to
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Not an expert on this subject, so explain it to me like I'm 5. Does this mean inflation will get out of control through the winter?



"Let’s take a look at the U.S. bathtub. During the early months of the Covid-19 pandemic, the faucet was wide open.

Between December 2019 and August 2021, the U.S. money supply, measured by M2, grew by $5.5 trillion, a stunning 35.7% increase in only a year and a half, driven primarily by the Fed’s purchases of Treasurys and mortgage-backed securities. In light of anticipated Federal Reserve tapering, we estimate that by the end of 2024 the money supply will grow another $5.1 trillion.

Out of the total $10.6 trillion in new money, real GDP growth will drain roughly $1.4 trillion. Another $1 trillion will flow down the money demand drain.

Since the amount of money flowing into the bathtub far exceeds the two outflows, the excess money in the tub—around $8.2 trillion—will hit the inflation overflow drain.

The huge monetary expansion—$5.5 trillion already in the bathtub—is starting to reach the overflow.

Persistent, not transitory, inflation will be with us for the next two to three years."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/another_democrat_economist_jumps_ship_on_bidens_inflationary_spending.html
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3767 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:11 am to
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What is causing them to keep rates low?

The Fed can’t afford the interest payments on the massive debt. Rates rise their probability of default increases.


The only option now is to grow out of the debt with inflation, but that’s a fools errand, and the music will stop eventually when interest rates have to rise.

Fed is just extending the inevitable, and their strategy will just cause more pain down the road.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:13 am to
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The only option now is to grow out of the debt with inflation, but that’s a fools errand, and the music will stop eventually when interest rates have to rise.

Fed is just extending the inevitable, and their strategy will just cause more pain down the road.


That is the only option even on day 1 as when modern money is created i.e. credit, the interest isn't created.

The money supply always has to go up exponentially, but humans don't have the ability to demand or supply exponentially forever. That would require unlimited power.

The financial system was built to reset, its a continuous battle that humans will eventually lose. Any system built on the attaching interest to the money supply will eventually fail.

The power of interest is a fool's illusion... at the the end the truth is it never existed.

The evil of interest is basically documented in most religious text... why? Simple math. At some point reset will happen, unless God changes the Laws of the Universe.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 8:23 am
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11867 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:20 am to
Stock buybacks and the modern retirement system is autobid because we are a bunch of retards
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