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re: What is Gender?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:07 pm to rbWarEagle
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:07 pm to rbWarEagle
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You say that as if I'd care.
Nah, based on your other posts in here I didn't think you'd care at all about triggering proggies.
I just like to point out when proggies ignore science when it doesn't fit their narrative.
Even admitting gender dysphoria is real causes a Stage V Trigger Event for them.
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:08 pm to Ebbandflow
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This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:12 pm to rbWarEagle
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We need to understand just what about the brain makes individuals susceptible to gender dysphoria and saying things like "well if ya got a dick, yer a dude" does nothing to help the problem
OK I will agree with your search to find out why some individuals are susceptible to gender dysphoria....that's actually pretty fair. But I would say that Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness....if you have this, then you are saying, I don't care about the objective evidence, I think I'm a girl...and you should "act" as though I am a girl when I am in your presence. It's all subjective
So just to keep them from slashing their wrists or pitching a fit or to avoid a visit from the EEOC, I must now participate in the fraud....embrace it.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:17 pm to rbWarEagle
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We need to understand just what about the brain makes individuals susceptible to gender dysphoria and saying things like "well if ya got a dick, yer a dude" does nothing to help the problem.
I think some people genuinely feel like they are the opposite sex due to some hard wired brain.issue.
However, it's a hip thing to do presently and has a lot of faddish behavior. One of my coworkers two teen daughters became "converted" to gender fluidity and veganism from table and watching YouTube. I think one "recovered" and the other is still converted
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:20 pm to KiwiHead
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I think I'm a girl...and you should "act" as though I am a girl when I am in your presence.
Using that logic is an atheist supposed to "act" like they believe in God around Christians? Or am I supposed to "act" like someone is a veteran in a clear case of stolen valor? No that is just not logical.
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So just to keep them from slashing their wrists or pitching a fit or to avoid a visit from the EEOC, I must now participate in the fraud....embrace it.
If you have to pretend that someone is what they aren't to keep them from hurting themselves there is a much deeper issue at hand and they need to be in a mental institution to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:27 pm to Ebbandflow
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
George Orwell, 1984
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“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.” George Orwell, 1984
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“It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.” George Orwell, 1984
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:31 pm to Ebbandflow
Gender...there are only two.
Anyone confused about this should consult their birth certificate.
Anyone confused about this should consult their birth certificate.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:36 pm to Ebbandflow
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Gender is not the same thing. gender is just the association tied with a specific sex but it is also able to be applied to things that are not of that specific sex.
Chopping your dick off, pumping your body with chemicals and then calling yourself a woman is not "legitimate". It's insulting to actual women. No tranny will ever have a clue what it is like to be a woman. No amount of self mutilation will make it other wise.
It's also complete gender appropriation, which is a no no if you're a liberal.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:37 pm to LSURussian
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“It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.” George Orwell, 1984
Ya, it's rather fricked up Orwell's literary warning turned in to a "how to" guide for proggies.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:38 pm to stelly1025
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Using that logic is an atheist supposed to "act" like they believe in God around Christians? Or am I supposed to "act" like someone is a veteran in a clear case of stolen valor? No that is just not logical.
1. Belief in God is something you take on faith and is always going to have a mostly subjective element to it. There is no objective proof of God. I can't go to a place and meet him or see him at work. So your anecdote fails.
2. The trans gendered, however have a verifiable objective reality. If I were a doctor and I was examining Caitlin Jenner and I knew nothing about Caitlyn, my examination would show me objective evidence that Caitlin is Bruce in reality. Bruce/Caitlin would protest that he is really a she, but, what if Caitlin comes down with prostate cancer? Only men have prostate cancer. That instance would expose the absolute reality. Also Caitlin never removed the beans and franks so that is another giveaway.....so to refer to Caitlin as a her is perpetuating a fraud
3. If a person has engaged in stolen valor, the fact that it is stolen valor can be objectively shown via records from the military, etc.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 1:51 pm to KiwiHead
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1. Belief in God is something you take on faith and is always going to have a mostly subjective element to it. There is no objective proof of God. I can't go to a place and meet him or see him at work. So your anecdote fails.
Belief in gender as compared to your actual gender is perfectly comparable to my example.
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2. The trans gendered, however have a verifiable objective reality. If I were a doctor and I was examining Caitlin Jenner and I knew nothing about Caitlyn, my examination would show me objective evidence that Caitlin is Bruce in reality. Bruce/Caitlin would protest that he is really a she, but, what if Caitlin comes down with prostate cancer? Only men have prostate cancer. That instance would expose the absolute reality. Also Caitlin never removed the beans and franks so that is another giveaway.....so to refer to Caitlin as a her is perpetuating a fraud
Reality is reality no matter which way you try to spin it. Bruce Jenner is born a male, and now pretends to be female. There is no gray area and "Caitlyn" can protest all she wants to she is still Bruce (a man) and this is proof.
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3. If a person has engaged in stolen valor, the fact that it is stolen valor can be objectively shown via records from the military, etc.
Same applies with a birth certificate.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/8/17 at 2:52 pm to Ebbandflow
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In the French language, words have either a male or female gender tied to them because of the way that they sound. Obviously there is no science for this nor is it and it anyway biological.
Looks like France gonna have to create a lot more pronouns - Spanish too
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:06 am to Centinel
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Ok. So what. What is your desired outcome? What is the impact to people if other people disagree with gender fluidity, seeing as how gender is subjective to begin with?
I guess its individual and subjective to each person affected. Denying someone their subjective interpretation seems couter productive.
So if someone identifies as female, gender-wise, your interpretation is null because it isnt your experience. You can say that their SEX is male, which would be scientifically correct but you couldnt deny their own gender identification
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:10 am to Ebbandflow
You. Are. An. Idiot.
This is why I do believe in abortion. The World needs less of you around.
This is why I do believe in abortion. The World needs less of you around.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:11 am to Ebbandflow
They began using gender as an alternate for sex decades ago, because sex was synonymous with intercourse. Dems hijacked the word and made it their own, forcing the definition to change. That doesn't mean your ideas are legitimate.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:16 am to stelly1025
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If you have to pretend that someone is what they aren't to keep them from hurting themselves there is a much deeper issue at hand and they need to be in a mental institution to begin with.
Or maybe their own identity is fine as long as they accept the biology and if theyre struggling with another person, the person denying them that right is the one with the issue
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You're agreeing that those you're arguing with are right but too stupid to see it.
It's subjective, were all correct
As long as you accept that gender in and of itself the subjective to one person or another then you have to look at the next phase which is: is denying someone their own interpretation of their own gender still being subjective on your own since you are not the one affected by that interpretation
Posted on 11/9/17 at 12:23 am to Dale51
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And that context is objective and observable reality. When it isn't based on dicks and pussies, you're referring to one's imagination and feelings. Not that complicated. What is your point supposed to be...that fringe interpretations of long established realities should be overturned by a few nutbags, and that should be the "new norm"? Why? What is the benefit to be gained that would offset the effort to negate "old norm"?
Be as specific as possible.
Thanks.
And because of his feelings and identity, arguing against someone's own perception and interpretation of themselves is a fallacy because you are not that person or their own subjective identification of themselves. Pretty simple really
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:34 am to Rougarou13
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They began using gender as an alternate for sex decades ago, because sex was synonymous with intercourse.
So really it was hijacked then.
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Dems hijacked the word and made it their own, forcing the definition to change
If you mean returning it to its rightful State and true meaning due to the fact that we weren't a bunch of Puritans who are afraid of the word sex anymore then I would agree.
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That doesn't mean your ideas are legitimate.
People's ideas are their own ideas but you attaching a meaning or value to them based on what you perceive their idea should be is the part that's illegitimate.
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