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re: What if Trump was just a controlled psyop to take focus away from real change?

Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:55 pm to
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He was threatened with impeachment if he fired Fauci, remember?


He got impeached twice anyway, why would he care about that? Think critically.
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:47 pm to
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He got impeached twice anyway, why would he care about that? Think critically.


So was the impeachment itself part of the Trump psyop?
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 3:05 pm to
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And they're only one data point


Listening to any opinion proffered by anyone associated with the NyTi is the very opposite of considering a wide-range of opinions.

The NyTi exists primarily to mold the limits of allowable opinion, not give a full range of opinion.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 3:09 pm to
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So was the impeachment itself part of the Trump psyop?


It was all political theater, especially the second one. They didn’t even go through the proper procedures the second time, it was just a floor vote.
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:13 pm to
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It was all political theater, especially the second one.


I agree wholeheartedly that the vast majority of what emanates from Washington D.C in these types of proceedings is political theater. Yet that wasn’t my question.

My question was whether the impeachment was part of the alleged psyop? And by implication, was Trump thus a willing and controlled player in this aspect of the psyop?
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:27 pm to
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My question was whether the impeachment was part of the alleged psyop?


Yes, it’s no coincidence that Ukraine and Zelensky were involved.
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Yes, it’s no coincidence that Ukraine and Zelensky were involved.




If true, that indicates the war in the hinterlands of Eastern Europe is simply an extension of the pysop. SFP needs to rethink his support of that war!

Posted by dafif
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:30 pm to
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I already cited the law supporting my arguments. There are no such restrictions.


Not to be too argumentative it that is not how laws work. In the absence of specific authority to act, everything else is limited or not authorized
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Not to be too argumentative it that is not how laws work. In the absence of specific authority to act, everything else is limited or not authorized

Go read my posts in the CISA thread. I quoted and bolded the authority.

He is claiming there are restrictions on their guidance. The law I posted contains no such restrictions and gives broad authority to issue guidance and recommendations.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:50 pm to
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If true, that indicates the war in the hinterlands of Eastern Europe is simply an extension of the pysop

You'd have to work Russia's irrational aggression and invasion as being part of their plan/control.

I'm open minded to hear
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:00 pm to
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The law I posted contains no such restrictions and gives broad authority


That’s exactly what SCOTUS said can’t be done
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:04 pm to
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You'd have to work Russia's irrational aggression and invasion as being part of their plan/control. I'm open minded to hear


Take it up with admin. I opened the topic for discussion. It got nuked.



Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:12 pm to
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I imagine because mine is creating a valid discussion and the others were "call out" thread trying to own me.




the Kim Kardashian one did make me laugh though
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:21 pm to
They were mostly all good
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:04 pm to
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He is claiming there are restrictions on their guidance. The law I posted contains no such restrictions and gives broad authority to issue guidance and recommendations.


B.S. Don’t put words in my mouth.

I said the original CISA bill contained no language whatsoever about pandemics. The reason there were no restrictions is because there was NOTHING in the original bill mentioning CISA having purview over the entire U.S. economy during a pandemic.

It never ends with you. You are such a disingenuous hack.



This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:08 pm to
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I said the original CISA bill contained no language whatsoever about pandemics.

The language of the bill covered pandemics. It didn't have to list that specifically because it has the power in a pandemic or not.

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The reason there were no restrictions is because there was NOTHING in the original bill mentioning CISA having purview over the economy

It didn't exercise any authority over the economy and never has.

All it did was issue guidance, which is in it's statutory mandate.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:21 pm to
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The language of the bill covered pandemics.


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It didn't have to list that specifically because it has the power in a pandemic or not.


The language of the bill covered pandemics….it didn't have to list that specifically.

Well which is it?







Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:08 pm to
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The language of the bill covered pandemics.


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It didn't have to list that specifically because it has the power in a pandemic or not.


The language of the bill covered pandemics….it didn't have to list that specifically.

Hello? Is this thing on? Come out! Come out wherever you are!

Posted by Padme
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:12 pm to
This thread is so cringe, every time it pops back up

The only thing more cringe than the title is that he is still trying to argue, as if it’s not a complete whacked out conspiracy theory.

If he ever realizes how cringe it is, he will say he was just bullshitting the whole thing. I mean he is a sold out believer. Not sure why anyone says he ever shifted a bit in his ideology.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:51 pm to
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This thread is so cringe, every time it pops back up


Agree or not with the premise, if taken to it’s logical conclusion, it necessarily entails a deep layered conspiracy by the reigning political elite in both parties.

In other words, if Trump is indeed a willing NWO pawn, it means Trump’s supporters are indeed correct that a massive globalist conspiracy has been committed to bring this NWO into existence.



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The only thing more cringe than the title is that he is still trying to argue, as if it’s not a complete whacked out conspiracy theory.


What is most cringe to me is the latent dissembling by SFP that has become his standard here lately: it is off the freaking charts — and that is quite an ignoble accomplishment considering the accomplished B.S. artists on this forum!

This thread and the CISA thread should be bumped every time this circus clown attacks the logic or rationality of any other poster on this forum.



On a more serious note, the most disturbing aspect here is it appears SFP seems to genuinely believe he is coming out looking good in these exchanges.

I don’t know if he is such an egoistical maniac that he simply believes we are too dumb to see through his dissembling or if there is a genuine cognitive dissonance between how he perceives his arguments are delivered and what he actually says.

Whatever the case, there is a deep seated pathology at play here.

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