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re: What If the Federal Judge Sides with Newsom?
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:54 am to Clark14
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:54 am to Clark14
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And there are 3 branches of government, legislative, judicial and and frickstick. 2 are in place to keep frickstick in check and prevent a damn dictatorship and such bullshite.
Unless you are a Democrat. but that’s (d)different I suppose…
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Learn some damn history and hope they don’t come knocking on your door, your boy in the White House doesn’t give a shite about you either.
Speaking of history: is this a new found fear of yours?
What about when the “Deporter-In-Chief” was deporting hundreds of thousands. Were you afraid he would come knocking on your door? ohhh, that’s (d)different too I suppose?
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 8:03 am
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:03 am to MISSOURI WALTZ
Except he 100% had the authority. Federal agents were getting physically attacked.
Take out the politics and I think it was handled great. National guard protected federal agents and property and the local police handled the crowds and actually shut it down last night about midnight.
Take out the politics and I think it was handled great. National guard protected federal agents and property and the local police handled the crowds and actually shut it down last night about midnight.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:07 am to holdmuh keystonelite
This is one of those times, if a judge says you can’t do that he pulls them out and lets California crumble. There’s no running away from it politically for California politicians standing in the way. The people will either move out faster or turn on its party.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:14 am to Purplehaze
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Assume that Trump just does what he wants and the hell with the judiciary and supreme court. The next step is to arrest and send out of the country all of his political opponents regardless of their citizenship status. You will then be able to tell your children that you witnessed the beginning of the dictatorship
Who do you trust more??? Trump or the direction of the Marxist Dems?
Has Trump shown any indications of being a dictator? Hell, he's being criticized for not being aggressive enough!!
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:19 am to TooFyeToFly
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No judge has the authority to stop the President from doing the duties as Commander in Chief
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Yes, they absolutely do and always have. Like when the Supreme Court blocked Biden's student loan forgiveness program.

Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:20 am to prouddawg
Yes, we already know progressives are that stupid.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:34 am to TooFyeToFly
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TooFyeToFly
Please don't try bubble gum when you walk.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:41 am to TooFyeToFly
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You clearly need a civics refresher, like a lot of Americans.
I’m pretty positive no one on this board took civics.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:42 am to Klark Kent
I appreciate the facts and figures. DJT was re-elected 7 months ago in part by promising to deport what they said was 15-20 million people. 7 months ago this was at least acceptable to the majority of people who took the time to vote. That number may be higher today. Thats not the point I was making. Prior to Kent State most Americans had had a belly full of protests and applauded the Governor's calling out the guard. The number of Americans who approved of the shooting or said it was the students fault was somewhere in the neighborhood of 60% for about a week afterwards. Then reality sat in that the national guard had killed college students and within a couple of weeks public opinion had shifted dramatically away from the actions of the guard being justified and that shift in public opinion is generally held as one of the many reasons the war ended when it did. No, what is going on now is most likely very popular amongst Americans sick of seeing protests....but that opinion is most likely going to shift as it has in the past because Americans do not have the stomach for it long term.
I have NEVER said that illegal immigration is good for the economy my friend, I do not know where you got that from. In fact I will state unequivocally that illegal immigration is bad for the economy because it creates an underclass of undocumented people who are easily exploited by those bent that way which creates an unfair competitive advantage for them over those who try to comply with legal requirements. Legal immigration and documented immigrants working legally in the US is a plus for the US economy in general but does impact wages at the bottom negatively. It has been argued that that impact is offset by lower prices which I tend to think is correct....lettuce would be incredibly expensive if it weren't for legal immigrants picking it.
I am not suggesting that the idea of deporting 20 million people is not a popular sentiment right now. I suspect it has more support today than it did in November. I also suspect that will change dramatically going forward as Americans have traditionally not had the stomach for such things. After 6 months of being inundated with images of senior citizens being punched in the face and knocked to the ground and children screaming for their mother American sentiment is going to turn, most likely. It makes NO difference that those images may be rarer than hen's teeth...it is all about perception and Americans aren't known for their ability to think much longer than it takes to break wind.
Polls showed Americans were opposed to declaring war against the axis powers in 1941 by 80-90%. Immediately after Pearl Harbor the same numbers indicated they were all in on declaring war. By 1944 that number was below 50%. In 1965 about 60% of Americans supported intervention in Vietnam. By 1969 that number was below 40%. The idea of deporting millions of immigrants here illegally is no doubt a popular one in June of 2025. It won't be in June of 2026 if history is any indicator. The numbers are much closer even while it is popular with a majority of Americans today than most similar "big" events in US history were at the beginning. It is unlikely that a year from now the support is close to what it is today because Americans do not have the stomach for it or they have not had in the past.
I have NEVER said that illegal immigration is good for the economy my friend, I do not know where you got that from. In fact I will state unequivocally that illegal immigration is bad for the economy because it creates an underclass of undocumented people who are easily exploited by those bent that way which creates an unfair competitive advantage for them over those who try to comply with legal requirements. Legal immigration and documented immigrants working legally in the US is a plus for the US economy in general but does impact wages at the bottom negatively. It has been argued that that impact is offset by lower prices which I tend to think is correct....lettuce would be incredibly expensive if it weren't for legal immigrants picking it.
I am not suggesting that the idea of deporting 20 million people is not a popular sentiment right now. I suspect it has more support today than it did in November. I also suspect that will change dramatically going forward as Americans have traditionally not had the stomach for such things. After 6 months of being inundated with images of senior citizens being punched in the face and knocked to the ground and children screaming for their mother American sentiment is going to turn, most likely. It makes NO difference that those images may be rarer than hen's teeth...it is all about perception and Americans aren't known for their ability to think much longer than it takes to break wind.
Polls showed Americans were opposed to declaring war against the axis powers in 1941 by 80-90%. Immediately after Pearl Harbor the same numbers indicated they were all in on declaring war. By 1944 that number was below 50%. In 1965 about 60% of Americans supported intervention in Vietnam. By 1969 that number was below 40%. The idea of deporting millions of immigrants here illegally is no doubt a popular one in June of 2025. It won't be in June of 2026 if history is any indicator. The numbers are much closer even while it is popular with a majority of Americans today than most similar "big" events in US history were at the beginning. It is unlikely that a year from now the support is close to what it is today because Americans do not have the stomach for it or they have not had in the past.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:50 am to AwgustaDawg
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Polls showed Americans were opposed to declaring war against the axis powers in 1941 by 80-90%. Immediately after Pearl Harbor the same numbers indicated they were all in on declaring war. By 1944 that number was below 50%.
This is incorrect. In 1944 Americans were optimistic the war was going to end soon. Their patriotism was still at all time highs. The effort was highly supported.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:11 am to MISSOURI WALTZ
If that happens, pull the military out and let L.A. burn. Give them what they asked for.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:12 am to hogcard1964
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This is incorrect. In 1944 Americans were optimistic the war was going to end soon. Their patriotism was still at all time highs. The effort was highly supported.
After D Day the optimism that the war would end soon was around 90% and for good reason...but overall support of the effort in early 1944 dipped below 50%. Again for good reason. People's sons and daughters were being killed. The people of the US and the rest of the world had had a belly full...it is not difficult to imagine why.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:18 am to JohnnyKilroy
Declare Martial Law.
They should gather a fleet of Semi Trucks. Recruit a few hundred ex athletes, pay them for NIL, and turn them loose with a basket full of Zip Ties.
Run the Thugs down, Zip tie their hands behind their back and their ankles together. Use a fork lift to fill up the trucks, and ship them to Mexico or El Salvador.
They should gather a fleet of Semi Trucks. Recruit a few hundred ex athletes, pay them for NIL, and turn them loose with a basket full of Zip Ties.
Run the Thugs down, Zip tie their hands behind their back and their ankles together. Use a fork lift to fill up the trucks, and ship them to Mexico or El Salvador.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:19 am to MISSOURI WALTZ
quote:Then he'll get squashed on appeal.
What if the federal judge sides with Gov. Newsom and decides that Pres. Trump does not have the authority to nationalize the California National Guard?
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:23 am to MISSOURI WALTZ
Things usually move slower.
California will continue to experience more it out migration of producers.
Then the state has to squeeze more blood out of the stones in its boundaries.
Then more out migration.
Rinse and repeat.
California will continue to experience more it out migration of producers.
Then the state has to squeeze more blood out of the stones in its boundaries.
Then more out migration.
Rinse and repeat.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:23 am to Ponchy Tiger
Ok, now YOU take over, Governor. And sit back & watch the city burn. But do give the ICE agents authority to fully protect themselves.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:37 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:That is why this needs to wrap up ASAP
Polls showed Americans were opposed to declaring war against the axis powers in 1941 by 80-90%. Immediately after Pearl Harbor the same numbers indicated they were all in on declaring war. By 1944 that number was below 50%. In 1965 about 60% of Americans supported intervention in Vietnam. By 1969 that number was below 40%. The idea of deporting millions of immigrants here illegally is no doubt a popular one in June of 2025. It won't be in June of 2026 if history is any indicator.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:40 am to AwgustaDawg
You keep trying to conflate this initiative (that the voters mandated) to historical events. It’s an obvious and biased tactic.
Obama deported millions. You and the Left had absolutely no issue with it. But now, mean Orange Man is in the office. Doing exactly what he mandated to do. And you and the Left and the media are acting like this is an authoritarian regime. It’s political bullshite and you know it.
You cannot predict the future, you do not know how this will be perceived in June 2026. It’s pure speculation and hope on your point.
Obama deported millions. You and the Left had absolutely no issue with it. But now, mean Orange Man is in the office. Doing exactly what he mandated to do. And you and the Left and the media are acting like this is an authoritarian regime. It’s political bullshite and you know it.
You cannot predict the future, you do not know how this will be perceived in June 2026. It’s pure speculation and hope on your point.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 9:45 am
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