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re: What happens when our GOP fails to impeach?

Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:54 pm to
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I fail to see the humor of a POTUS with evidence of foreign bribery. Let me in on the funny part.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3967 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:54 pm to
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What happens when our GOP fails to impeach Joe Biden?


It will be the first smart thing they have done in a long while.

Biden is getting killed in favorable ratings. You make Democrats act to remove him. When the media asks why you don't impeach you cite failure to receive bi-partisan support.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:56 pm to
Let us in on the bribery part.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51363 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:57 pm to
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His mere existence was risking several other NY seats. He wasn’t running again anyway. He’s also a moron. Better to just get it over with and not let Santos be around in an election year.


The enemy will use Santos against the Republicans anyway, should have kept the vote and let the people in his district decide his fate. Did you forget Menedez is still casting votes in the senate? And there's another Dim in congress whose name escapes me, who admitted his crimes and he seems to be untouchable.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33443 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:02 pm to
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The enemy will use Santos against the Republicans anyway, should have kept the vote and let the people in his district decide his fate.

He wasn’t running for re-election. Better to try and get a GOP replacement in there via special election to try and have the benefit of incumbency in 24.

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Did you forget Menedez is still casting votes in the senate?

No, but I fail to see the relevance. The House GOP can’t remove a Senator from New Jersey. Neither can the Senate GOP for that matter.
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And there's another Dim in congress whose name escapes me, who admitted his crimes and he seems to be untouchable.

And that is supposed to be the standard? If the GOP loses a major vote by 1 member, I’ll come back and side with you.

Until then, the guy was nothing but a loudmouth liability.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33036 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:03 pm to
Trump and Clinton both impeached.Neither was removed. Same scenario with Biden. If you can't remove him, why bother
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86748 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Comer says he has the votes
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That’s pleasant. Now do it.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:14 pm to
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What happens when our GOP fails to impeach Joe Biden?


Then we'll know for certain it is, in fact, just a standard set of GOP leadership. We can finally relax all these feelings of hope.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:36 pm to
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Let us in on the bribery part.
Frankly, the Shokin episode on its own is enough.

Comer now has monthly checks coming to Joe from Hunter's shell corp whose sole purpose was international shakedowns. That's in addition to the $240K in "loan repayments" from Joe's brother and SIL.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33443 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Comer now has monthly checks coming to Joe from Hunter's shell corp whose sole purpose was international shakedowns

Is this the ~$1,300 monthly payments?

Last I heard that’s being attributed to a car payment—per CBS News.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 5:47 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:48 pm to
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Last I heard that’s being attributed to a car payment—per CBS News.

IOW, another "loan"? The problem is the source of the payments .... and their structuring.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6621 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:51 pm to
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Why would you impeach him? You WANT him running again.


He’s not running again. They already know that. There will be a health scare where he has to gracefully bow out. I’m not even being cynical here, that’s the most obvious play. The dude can’t even string together a sentence and is losing ground to Trump.

Newsom won’t lose that same ground and is not a political liability to lose votes like Biden. By political liability, I don’t mean he’s not a piece of shite, I just mean, people who voted for Obama will vote for Newsom. I can’t say the same about Biden at this point.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
40754 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:52 pm to
Who cares about proving bribery? Biden's handling of the Afghanistan pullout and the border is enough to impeach.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33443 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:52 pm to
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IOW, another "loan"? The problem is the source of the payments .... and their structuring.

No disagreement here. Just pointing out that the “narrative” is already set.

The GOP is awful at messaging. This slow roll from Comer strategy isn’t going to get it done.

Either lay it all on the table concisely and coherently, or, if you don’t have “it” yet, STFU until you do.

Nothing is worth announcing publicly until it’s something incontrovertible.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
65683 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:56 pm to
Well, they have produced no evidence conclusively tying Joe Biden to illegal payments. So, there’s that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131190 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:57 pm to
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Either lay it all on the table concisely and coherently, or, if you don’t have “it” yet, STFU until you do.
I agree. In part, that is the "Hunter deposition" concept.

But impeachment hearings would move in that direction. I was not a fan of impeachment (because there is zero chance of removal) until the Comer reveals. Now IMO, they should proceed.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41631 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:07 pm to
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What happens when our GOP fails to impeach Joe Biden? You know they won’t have the guts to do it.


Why would that surprise anyone? They had majorities in the house and senate during the first half of Trumps term and they got nothing done.

The only thing, and I repeat the only thing they've gotten done was SCOTUS appointments. You can attribute that more to Turtle.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12031 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Even if they impeached him they wouldn’t go through with a guilty verdict.


Well several Democrats in the Senate would have to go along that, and we know they won’t.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12031 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Why would you impeach him? You WANT him running again


That won’t stop him from running again.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18086 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:27 pm to
Biden needs to be impeached on principle. What he’s done needs consequences.

Politically, it’s not a good idea. I’d love to see him run again.
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