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re: What happened to honesty? I'm looking at you SFP and the like.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:34 am to deathvalleytiger10
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:34 am to deathvalleytiger10
Yes in today's liberal hive mind the 10 commandments are more dangerous than indoctrinating children to be freaks.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:34 am to Tmcgin
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Clinton/Obama happened to Truth
It was in short supply before but they buried it
They made the Truth obsolete
Think about everything you have compromised
To follow their buffoonery
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:35 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Must have been crazy bad if we are still talking about it correct?
You don't think the way many people have reacted one way or another to Muh Mostly Peaceful Insurrection is indicative of mental health issues?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Spending, spending, and more spending
So you dont like any president in the last 30yrs
Are you still trying to deny you are a lefty
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:37 am to DisplacedBuckeye
It's Exhibit A of partisan brain rot. 99% of this board would have called Hilldawg an insurrectionist if she did the same thing as Trump.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:38 am to geauxkoo
The left has never been honest are you just realizing this now?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:39 am to SDVTiger
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So you dont like any president in the last 30yrs
No.
I haven't voted for a DEM or GOP Presidential candidate since 2004. This will mark 20 years and 5 Presidential elections.
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Are you still trying to deny you are a lefty
If I was a lefty, I'd like Biden and loved Obama
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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I haven't voted for a DEM or GOP Presidential candidate since 2004. This will mark 20 years and 5 Presidential elections.
So you are a kommie voting for the libertarian party
Got it
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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Did you miss January 6 or something? Plenty of people in MAGA are mentally ill, just as plenty of Leftists are mentally ill.
/\ great example /\
YOU obviously take the position that J6 was some sort of INSURRECTION dedicated to "overthrowing the government" and "destroying democracy"
I say 'take the position' because I know that someone with the intellect to put words in the order that you are able to do is not really stupid - you are just dedicated to defending a NARRATIVE that 'your side' is REQUIRED to defend AT ALL COSTs.
You KNOW there was no "insurrection" on J6 - there was a 'peaceful protest' by ANY interpretation of that phrase wrt to the 2020 'peaceful protests' by your cohorts all across the USA. You KNOW that the 'root cause' of those 'peaceful protests' was the George Floyd fiasco - where a lifetime criminal died from an overdose of fentanyl while fighting with police (as he had done in past interactions (except for the dying part)) Yet you still address the actual "peaceful protest' of J6 as though it were the equivalent to storming the Bastille.
Yes - there were scuffles on J6 - many of them in reaction to irrational 'crowd control' actions by the police officials.
NOW - were there some 'bad actors' in the crowd?? - undoubtedly - but the "protest" was for a LEGITIMATE desire for 'redress of greivances' caused by the totally incorrigible ELECTION process that resulted in a totally indefendable result. I am not going to wage that argument here, but anyone with your intellect knows that election was NOT 'the most secure and accurate election in history'. In fact it was totally UNBELIEVEABLE and the actions of the 'winners' in the aftermath only supports the notion that they KNOW it was an unsupportable result.
Are there people 'on the right' that go overboard with their reasoning?? not debatable - sure.
Are there people 'on the right' that are working out of ignorance - not debatable - sure
Are the mass population of people who want some actual analysis of the improbable result honest in their belief - absolutely.
and for those who cling to the 'most secure election in history' - they are the actual culprits - either improbably ignorant or dismally evil.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:46 am to Prettyboy Floyd
quote:Crazy bad indeed. They planted a pipe bomb next to Kamala's place. They bludgeoned Officer Sicknick to death with a fire extinguisher. A viking hat dude charged through throngs of CHPolice into the Senate Chamber. Several tried to gang rape AOC. It was horrible!!! Pelosi and the press explained it while Sicknick was lying in state in the rotunda.
Did people die or something? Must have been crazy bad if we are still talking about it correct?
You know what's worse?
Sicknick's murderer(s), the pipebomb perp(s), and AOC's rapists are all still at large. Terrible!
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:47 am to thebigmuffaletta
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TDS
This is the answer.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:48 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You don't think the way many people have reacted one way or another to Muh Mostly Peaceful Insurrection is indicative of mental health issues?
Another idiot shows their colors. Imagine putting that non-sense and expecting people to take you seriously.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 8:49 am
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:49 am to SDVTiger
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So you are a kommie voting for the libertarian party
I only did that twice.
I have voted for the Prohibitionist party in 2008 and whatever Kanye was in 2020, as well.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:50 am to geauxkoo
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1. Do you agree with the US having open borders?
How can anyone support this? It has no upside at all. SFP apparently does with qualifiers. Ridiculous
quote:It is unbelievable where we are as a country. Truly sick. It is creating contagion. Bill Maher said it seemed like a "Tik Tok challenge" gone wrong.
2. Do you support teaching trans ideology to minors?
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3. Do you agree with sending billions of dollars to Ukraine?
I do not. We have our own problems. Inflation is out of hand. This should have been over long ago with a peace agreement that will eventually happen anyway with concessions that we are now fighting.
quote:Only those that hate Trump believe this. And, I am not so sure they actually believe it, they just are Anti-(fill in the blank) and vote that way.
4. Do you think Joe Biden is the best candidate for POTUS?
quote:Absolutely in every single instance. It is obvious. No other President in history would have been harassed and prosecuted for any of this.
5. Do you think Trump is being politically persecuted?
quote:Absolutely not, and it has and will happen. People can put their head in the sand about it, but it is happening.
6. Do you agree with allowing illegal aliens to vote? Even in local elections?
quote:Absolutely not. The student agreed to the loan and should pay for it. I believe the government should get out of the loan business and let the free markets decide what degrees they will lend money on and let them set criteria such as gpa, etc. on the continuation of loans. We have thrown out all basic common sense and practices on loans just because education is attached to it.
7. Do you agree with the forgiveness of billions in student loans? Please explain how this is not an attempt to buy votes.
quote:No! It is ridiculous. Organizations should be stepping up to stop this.
8. Do you agree with letting biological men compete against biological women in sports?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:50 am to ChineseBandit58
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YOU obviously take the position that J6 was some sort of INSURRECTION
Never have. I have stated early and often it as not an insurrection.
Again, you're relying on mistruths/lies, in a thread about being honest
quote:
I say 'take the position' because I know that someone with the intellect to put words in the order that you are able to do is not really stupid - you are just dedicated to defending a NARRATIVE that 'your side' is REQUIRED to defend AT ALL COSTs.
You KNOW there was no "insurrection" on J6 - there was a 'peaceful protest' by ANY interpretation of that phrase wrt to the 2020 'peaceful protests' by your cohorts all across the USA. You KNOW that the 'root cause' of those 'peaceful protests' was the George Floyd fiasco - where a lifetime criminal died from an overdose of fentanyl while fighting with police (as he had done in past interactions (except for the dying part)) Yet you still address the actual "peaceful protest' of J6 as though it were the equivalent to storming the Bastille.
And you've built quite the straw man based on that lie
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:50 am to Prettyboy Floyd
That's OK. I didn't expect an answer. Fortunately, I already knew what it would be when I asked the question.
You people are delusional and beyond help.
You people are delusional and beyond help.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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I only did that twice.
Thank you for being honest for once that you are a kommie
We are making progress
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:51 am to SDVTiger
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Thank you for being honest for once that you are a kommie
Now you're lying.
Nothing communist about libertarianism.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:51 am to Tmcgin
That’s rich coming from a far left loon like yourself 
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
First, thank you for answering.
I disagree completely. There is no scenario where the good outweighs the bad with open borders. I'm not saying we stop allowing immigration into the US. I'm saying it needs to be governed. We also need to stop spending so much time worrying about other countries in our "hemisphere" and take care of ours first. There's a reason flight attendants tell you to put on your mask first before helping anyone else.
It's almost like you have common sense.
I don't think it needs nuance at all. What we're doing is the equivalent of me paying my neighbors bills despite being unable to pay my own bills.
Risky behavior does not equal illegal behavior.
There are also ways in which you can have student loans erased by declaring bankruptcy (it has to be a separate filing but it's doable). The difference is, the bankruptcy courts force people into payment plans. These recent student loans have a maximum income of 125,000.00 a year. Very few people make that much. Probably 80% of all student loans fall beneath that particular line.
That's a disingenuous statement. The PSLF was passed for a totally different reason. It was passed to try to get people to go back to the military, to become policemen and firefighters, and work in public sector jobs. It was basically promoting dropping out of college and not having to pay back what you already owe. Granted, I don't agree that willy nilly forgiving student loans should be a thing from the left or right. Biden is being forced to forgive the student loans right now as a result of his own failed monetary policies.
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Depends on what else we do. Open borders and no domestic welfare state + replacing China with Central America would be ideal. There are scenarios where more open borders is not scary, and everyone within our hemisphere benefits, ultimately (at the expense of China, primarily, so a triple victory).
I disagree completely. There is no scenario where the good outweighs the bad with open borders. I'm not saying we stop allowing immigration into the US. I'm saying it needs to be governed. We also need to stop spending so much time worrying about other countries in our "hemisphere" and take care of ours first. There's a reason flight attendants tell you to put on your mask first before helping anyone else.
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You have to define lots of these words before any discussion can be had.
Do I think parents should be able to teach their children about people being trans? Yes.
Do I think public schools should be pushing any ideology? No. No religion. No social justice. Nothing.
It's almost like you have common sense.
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This is another question that needs a lot more nuance and context and is unanswerable in any attempt at honesty as written.
I don't think it needs nuance at all. What we're doing is the equivalent of me paying my neighbors bills despite being unable to pay my own bills.
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The other cases arise from Trump's stupidity after losing the election and engaging in extremely risky behavior that opened up the door for investigation/prosecution. This continued through possible obstruction of justice in the documents case (which is the strongest charge against him, currently).
Risky behavior does not equal illegal behavior.
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Again, this is a subject with a lot more layers/nuance than your question covers, so you need to clean it up to create an honest discussion.
There are Congressional acts that forgive SLs. Do I agree that these laws exist and are executable? Yes. I do not think that's what you're asking.
There are also ways in which you can have student loans erased by declaring bankruptcy (it has to be a separate filing but it's doable). The difference is, the bankruptcy courts force people into payment plans. These recent student loans have a maximum income of 125,000.00 a year. Very few people make that much. Probably 80% of all student loans fall beneath that particular line.
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PSLF was passed under Bush, so are you arguing the GOP tried to buy votes?
That's a disingenuous statement. The PSLF was passed for a totally different reason. It was passed to try to get people to go back to the military, to become policemen and firefighters, and work in public sector jobs. It was basically promoting dropping out of college and not having to pay back what you already owe. Granted, I don't agree that willy nilly forgiving student loans should be a thing from the left or right. Biden is being forced to forgive the student loans right now as a result of his own failed monetary policies.
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