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What evidence is there that shows polls with Biden winning are wrong?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:09 am
I want to believe they're wrong but with so many of them showing such a commanding lead for Biden, it's difficult to remain excited and positive going into November.
I know they failed miserably last time but are we really expecting them to make the same mistakes 2 times in a row? Is there any real evidence (not theory) that the polls are wrong this time? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know and I want to feel better
I know they failed miserably last time but are we really expecting them to make the same mistakes 2 times in a row? Is there any real evidence (not theory) that the polls are wrong this time? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know and I want to feel better
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:10 am to TDsngumbo
Conversely...
What evidence they are correct?
What evidence they are correct?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:10 am to TDsngumbo
I think the polls are undersampling Republicans and they're only polling registered voters.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:10 am to TDsngumbo
Have you forgotten the polls about HRC?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:10 am to TDsngumbo
Here's a hint: the election hasn't happened yet...
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:10 am to TDsngumbo
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What evidence is there that shows polls with Biden winning are wrong
Do you not remember 2016???
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:11 am to SCLibertarian
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I think the polls are undersampling Republicans and they're only polling registered voters.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:11 am to TDsngumbo
they are skewed the same as before.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:12 am to TDsngumbo
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I know they failed miserably last time but are we really expecting them to make the same mistakes 2 times in a row?
You are asking if we think the Democrats, who failed at Muh Russians, Muh Collusion, Covid, Railroading Bernie again, ANTIFA, CHAZ, if they will make the same mistakes as they did before???
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:12 am to TDsngumbo
Nationally Biden will be up 5-8 points even until November if it's somehow less than that he is finished.
Battleground polls are what need to be analazex and right now in this very moment it's not hard to believe polling wise he is up - although barely.
Trump was finally gaining momentum with the economy and covid including his highest polling 2 months ago. He's arguably had his most difficult moment recently so I do believe his number hit bottom.
But there is still 4.5 months left. He can rebound easily by staying on his old message and attacking Biden.
Biden having to come out of the basebent will not keep his poll numbers today at bay or raise them it will lower them.
Battleground polls are what need to be analazex and right now in this very moment it's not hard to believe polling wise he is up - although barely.
Trump was finally gaining momentum with the economy and covid including his highest polling 2 months ago. He's arguably had his most difficult moment recently so I do believe his number hit bottom.
But there is still 4.5 months left. He can rebound easily by staying on his old message and attacking Biden.
Biden having to come out of the basebent will not keep his poll numbers today at bay or raise them it will lower them.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:13 am to notsince98
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they are skewed the same as before.
How, though? Skewed in favor of more registered democrats? In favor of more likely voters who are registered democrats? Skewed in favor of blacks? What is it?
Look y'all, I'm voting Trump and want him to win. I just don't think he will at this point in time. BLM group think across America is very strong right now and spreading like wildfire.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:13 am to TDsngumbo
Polls right now don't mean as much as the poll in November.
If some stranger calls you on the phone and asks you if you're voting for Trump in Nov, what's your answer?
If some stranger calls you on the phone and asks you if you're voting for Trump in Nov, what's your answer?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:13 am to TDsngumbo
You’re probably polled daily.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:14 am to TDsngumbo
At some point, they will have to put Biden out there, and then it is over.
Plus, the left is killing itself right now. And the polls in the battlegrounds are close enough that I am feeling better about the election than I was last week.
Plus, the left is killing itself right now. And the polls in the battlegrounds are close enough that I am feeling better about the election than I was last week.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:15 am to TDsngumbo
From a purely psychological perspective, I don’t think there’s any question that conservatives feel a societal pressure to mask their political perspective (in aggregate). And I certainly expect this to spill over into polls as well. There will be plenty of people polled who will state that they are either undecided or voting Biden because they don’t want even an anonymous pollster to know that they fully intend to vote for trump.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:15 am to notsince98
I believe they are wrong, but not overwhelmingly wrong. I think Trump is behind in the polls because of the headwinds he is facing.
I would be utterly shocked if Trump wins. The deck has been so stacked and he is getting attacked from all angles.
I would be utterly shocked if Trump wins. The deck has been so stacked and he is getting attacked from all angles.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:15 am to TDsngumbo
In general the polls sample Republicans at 25%. In 2016 the GOP turnout was 33%.
They over sample Dems too but I forget by how much.
They over sample Dems too but I forget by how much.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:15 am to Champagne
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If some stranger calls you on the phone and asks you if you're voting for Trump in Nov, what's your answer?
Well I guess there it is! Because in this societal climate today I would hang up. I'm not telling anyone other than close family that I'm voting for Trump.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:15 am to armtackledawg
What evidence? Were you living under a rock in 2016?
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:15 am to TDsngumbo
Arkansas polls showing Biden within 2%.
Feel better?
Feel better?
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