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re: What does the word ‘conservative’ mean in
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:44 am to geauxbrown
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:44 am to geauxbrown
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I don’t care for her but she’s still a conservative
She isn't conservative and never has been. People like you are gullible and being gullible has been the downfall of this country.
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:10 am to OldFatDog
The last conservative to hold office was probably Calvin Coolidge.
Liz Cheney? A big government, censoring war monger? Hardly.
Conservative ideals don't get elected because the money that pays for these expensive campaigns wants access to the federal printing press and federal rule making. What exists in the GOP today is the faction that wants to talk and wage war for money versus a populist faction that wants to focus on national issues. Neither are conservative, but one purports to represent the middle class versus the establishment which only represents globalist wealth.
Liz Cheney? A big government, censoring war monger? Hardly.
Conservative ideals don't get elected because the money that pays for these expensive campaigns wants access to the federal printing press and federal rule making. What exists in the GOP today is the faction that wants to talk and wage war for money versus a populist faction that wants to focus on national issues. Neither are conservative, but one purports to represent the middle class versus the establishment which only represents globalist wealth.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:10 am to OldFatDog
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Liz Cheney is the textbook definition of conservative by any traditional standards.
Something a dipshit would say.
Republicans nominated Dole, McCain and Romney, and your retards claimed they were racist and fringe.
You have no values other than gayness is good, kids are adults and less work for more money.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:29 am to OldFatDog
quote:No. Too many disparate groups trying to claim exclusive rights to the word, with Trump populists, SoCons and limited government folks being the three main groups.
Does the word ‘conservative’ have any meaning today?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:31 am to OldFatDog
quote:For ONE group of self-professed “conservatives,” that is a good summary.
This is where it gets confusing. Your point seems to be that being conservative now simply means to support Trump. The traditional view no longer applies?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:33 am to davyjones
quote:and each will be utterly convinced that his is the only conceivable correct answer
Randomly select 10 different people and you got yourself 10 differing definitions of that term (conservative).
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:35 am to AggieHank86
Precisely.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:35 am to Texas Yarddog
quote:Who is this “Chaney” person?
Chaney can be considered conservative
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:38 am to Chancellor
quote:or perhaps it means that our constitution allows the chief executive to appoint Supreme Court justices, with the Senate’s sole role being to weed out patently a qualified individuals,… Not individuals holding philosophy which with a Senator disagrees.
If you vote in favor of the appointment of a court justice who doesn't hold an Originalist interpretive philosophy (i.e. their philosophy is that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document the meaning of which can change based on how you feel at the moment), then you're not a Conservative. Hi, Lindsay Graham.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:38 am to OldFatDog
I know having an open border and supporting foreign aid certainly isn't conservative.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:40 am to McLemore
quote:How sad, to define yourself solely in terms of the things that you oppose, rather than in terms of the things in which you believe.
How about you tell us what your well-defined “beliefs/ideologies” are, and I’ll tell you I believe the opposite?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:59 am to OldFatDog
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What does the word ‘conservative’ mean in
today’s political climate?
It means that you will lay still while they walk on you, but you will do some slight bitching about it for show.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:00 am to OldFatDog
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The establishment within the Democratic Party is too moderate
Ha!
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:08 am to AggieHank86
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How sad, to define yourself solely in terms of the things that you oppose, rather than in terms of the things in which you believe.
You deduced from that post how I personally define myself?
Also, in a fallen world full of evil and brokenness, a significant portion of one’s political identity should of course include things one opposes.
Do you believe in an abstract goodness? If so, from what do you derive that concept? What does it entail?
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 8:11 am
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:13 am to OldFatDog
Conservatives believe in traditional values, a free market economy, and protecting constitutional rights
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:17 am to McLemore
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, a significant portion of one’s political identity should of course include things one opposes.
You and I understand this. He can't. The social realm is foreign to him.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:19 am to OldFatDog
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the Democratic Party
It's DEMOCRAT
Don't pay attention to Wikipedia; they are idiots.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:27 am to TrueTiger
Conservative in the modern progressive vernacular is one who things transitioning children is child abuse.
Conservatives role is to help stop the rapid social insanity and fiscal stupidity.
They're not doing a good job on either end. Having two non conservative Republican presidents over the past 20 years don't help at all.
Youre not represented by either party unless you have either a shite load of wealth, or a minority.
Conservatives role is to help stop the rapid social insanity and fiscal stupidity.
They're not doing a good job on either end. Having two non conservative Republican presidents over the past 20 years don't help at all.
Youre not represented by either party unless you have either a shite load of wealth, or a minority.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:29 am to TittleMeThis
It does not necessarily mean what a lot of people who call themselves conservatives consider it to mean.
The conservatives rail against profligate spending then remain curiously silent on the matter when one of their own gets elected President.
They are all about "high character" until one of their own gets caught doing something unethical....then it's a witch hunt.
The conservatives rail against profligate spending then remain curiously silent on the matter when one of their own gets elected President.
They are all about "high character" until one of their own gets caught doing something unethical....then it's a witch hunt.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:32 am to OldFatDog
In todays world a conservative values private property and free enterprise.
So not a leftist pinko commie that is preaching equity and collectivism and the race to the bottom.
So not a leftist pinko commie that is preaching equity and collectivism and the race to the bottom.
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