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re: What does it look like when the USA goes bankrupt?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:12 pm to Rohan Gravy
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:12 pm to Rohan Gravy
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What does it look like when the USA goes bankrupt?

Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:17 pm to Rohan Gravy
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bankrupt
Define bankrupt.
Here’s how the great Ron Paul defined it:
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We’re bankrupt. There’s no way we can repay our debt… The only question is whether we’ll default on our debts through an inflationary scheme or whether we’ll take our medicine and start over.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:18 pm to Rohan Gravy
A lot less morbidly obese people.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:20 pm to Ridgewalker
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I've got bags of beans, rice, freeze dried buckets of prepper food. Gold and Silver bullion, lots of 90% silver coins. A car (67) and a truck (76) that have no computers.
Firearms, ammo and land in the middle of nowhere with power and water.
I figure I could make it a year or two before the zombies found me.
This^^^ is the way.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:24 pm to GeorgePaton
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My siblings (most of them deceased) told me what it was like during the Great Depression. Trust me, you won't like it.
You are obviously a man of wisdom
Thank you
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:27 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Hasn’t the US been effectively “bankrupt” for the better part of the past 50 years?
What do you think will look different?
I don’t know
That’s why I’m asking
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:30 pm to Rip Torn
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We would need a good World War to truly recover and thin out the population
My Dad told me that about war
But I think he meant more than just reducing the population
I don’t know
War is good for our economy?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:33 pm to Powerman
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And what is he doing to help mitigate this disaster?
You are stupid
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:37 pm to Bass Tiger
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The calamitous effects of this ^^^^ reckless spending and insane accommodating monetary policy is the question you want answered.
Think of the Great Depression and the financial and economic hardship that were dropped on the American people and then double or triple that.
Thank you
So I really do need to by canned foods and guns
Serious
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:41 pm to GeorgePaton
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President Trump is right about.........everything
Except for the small fact that he contributed to our debt more than POTUS not named Biden.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:44 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Thank you
So I really do need to by canned foods and guns
Serious
You wont need as much ammo as they tell you. The food and ability to filter water are good.
WHich part of the country do you live in? Become the Gray Man.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:45 pm to Sassafrasology
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Define bankrupt.
Yes
Thank you
I don’t know how the most powerful country in the world defines it
I worry about my children and grandchildren
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:50 pm to SWINC
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WHich part of the country do you live in?
Become the Gray Man.
Southeast Louisiana
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:52 pm to SuperSaint
Elephant backstrap with taters.

Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:57 pm to Stat M Repairman
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Might’ve been that the purpose of Covid, and the $8 Trillion printed during Covid was designed to kick the can down the road and prevent a larger economic meltdown.
Would explain why all western nations wholeheartedly participated in the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
Very astute.
Wait till you see the next one.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:42 pm to Rohan Gravy
Before we can answer this, we have to understand what "goes bankrupt" really means.
The value of the USD is derived from three main functions:
1. Its position as the primary world reserve currency (over half of all goods traded internationally are exchanged for US Dollars).
2. The value of the USD's debt as an investment vehicle. US debt is among the most secure investments in the world because the federal government doesn't miss a payment (for now).
3. The petrodollar (which can be seen as an offshoot of Point 1, but it's enough for it to be its own point), which is the buying and selling of oil, refined petroleum (gasoline, diesel, etc) and LNG in USD's.
Think of the value of the USD as a tri-pod. If one leg fails, the whole thing falls.
So what might that look like?
The short version is that a dollar crash would be an economic civilization-level event for the entire world. For the US, it would be comparable in human impact to the fall of Rome or the Weimar hyperinflation, but on a much larger scale and faster timeline because of modern just-in-time supply chains and total dependence on imports. Most Americans’ standard of living would fall to early-20th-century or even 19th-century levels within a couple of years, but the problem is that we're not nearly as agrarian as we were back then. This means such an event would come with significant excess mortality from lack of medicine and food shortages which would lead to a quick increase in violence.
Short-term - In the first few weeks:
Inflation/hyper-inflation: This would look like imported goods (oil, electronics, clothing, pharmaceuticals, food staples like coffee, bananas, etc.) having immediate and extreme price increases as the dollar buys far less on global markets. Grocery prices could double or triple in weeks.
Banking: People rushing to withdraw cash or convert dollars to anything tangible (gold, crypto, foreign currency, canned goods) would cause banks to impose withdrawal limits; ATMs would run dry. Digital payment systems might freeze or become unreliable.
Investment/retirement: Dollar-denominated assets would plummet in real value. The stock market (priced in collapsing dollars) would fall.
Government benefits and pay for federal employees: Social Security checks, Medicare/Medicaid reimbursements, federal salaries, military pay, food stamps (SNAP), and unemployment benefits are all paid in Dollars. These programs would either become worthless or the government would be forced to print trillions more (worsening inflation).
Medium-term - Weeks to months:
Unemployment growth: Companies dependent on imports or dollar-based credit would fail en masse. Retail, manufacturing, transportation, and energy sectors would lay off millions. Unemployment would rapidly rise well into double-digits.
Supply-chain collapse leading to empty shelves: With importers unable to pay in credible currency, ports would empty out with the quickness. Basic goods (medicine, auto parts, fertilizer, semiconductors) would become scarce. Black markets and barter would explode in growth.
Mortgages and debt: Fixed-rate mortgage holders would technically benefit from inflation (they repay with cheaper dollars), but banks would fail or refuse to honor deposits. Adjustable-rate borrowers and anyone with dollar-denominated debt still outstanding would face exploding payments.
Evictions and homelessness surge: Landlords unable to pay property taxes, insurance, or their own mortgages would evict tenants en masse. Rent (now skyrocketing) would become unaffordable for most.
Crime and civil unrest: Expect widespread looting, riots, and violent crime as desperation sets in. National Guard and military deployments to cities would become common.
Long-term - After the first year:
Loss of global reserve status: Foreign nations would dump treasuries and dollars, which would send inflation into overdrive (if it wasn't already). The US would lose its exorbitant privilege of borrowing cheaply in its own currency.
Potential breakup of monetary union: States with large export economies (Texas, for example) or gold/silver reserves might push for state-level alternative currencies or even threaten secession. Regional currencies (something like a “CalExit peso” or “Texas dollar”) could emerge.
Wealth redistribution on steroids: Cash savings and fixed-income retirees would be wiped out. Debtors (especially the government itself) would be bailed out by inflation. Real asset owners (farmland, gold, Bitcoin, commodities) would become the new wealthy class.
Emigration wave: Millions of middle-class and skilled Americans would try to leave for countries with stable currencies (Canada, Switzerland, Singapore, UAE, etc.), though most countries would tighten immigration.
Authoritarian turn likely: In the face of chaos, Americans historically tolerate (and often demand) strong centralized power during crises. Expect martial law in some cities, capital controls, price controls, nationalization of industries, and possibly a forced switch to a new currency (digital dollar, “New Dollar” at 1000:1 conversion, etc.).
This is, of course, all speculation and there are LOTS of different ways this could go down but many of these things would be very possible.
The value of the USD is derived from three main functions:
1. Its position as the primary world reserve currency (over half of all goods traded internationally are exchanged for US Dollars).
2. The value of the USD's debt as an investment vehicle. US debt is among the most secure investments in the world because the federal government doesn't miss a payment (for now).
3. The petrodollar (which can be seen as an offshoot of Point 1, but it's enough for it to be its own point), which is the buying and selling of oil, refined petroleum (gasoline, diesel, etc) and LNG in USD's.
Think of the value of the USD as a tri-pod. If one leg fails, the whole thing falls.
So what might that look like?
The short version is that a dollar crash would be an economic civilization-level event for the entire world. For the US, it would be comparable in human impact to the fall of Rome or the Weimar hyperinflation, but on a much larger scale and faster timeline because of modern just-in-time supply chains and total dependence on imports. Most Americans’ standard of living would fall to early-20th-century or even 19th-century levels within a couple of years, but the problem is that we're not nearly as agrarian as we were back then. This means such an event would come with significant excess mortality from lack of medicine and food shortages which would lead to a quick increase in violence.
Short-term - In the first few weeks:
Inflation/hyper-inflation: This would look like imported goods (oil, electronics, clothing, pharmaceuticals, food staples like coffee, bananas, etc.) having immediate and extreme price increases as the dollar buys far less on global markets. Grocery prices could double or triple in weeks.
Banking: People rushing to withdraw cash or convert dollars to anything tangible (gold, crypto, foreign currency, canned goods) would cause banks to impose withdrawal limits; ATMs would run dry. Digital payment systems might freeze or become unreliable.
Investment/retirement: Dollar-denominated assets would plummet in real value. The stock market (priced in collapsing dollars) would fall.
Government benefits and pay for federal employees: Social Security checks, Medicare/Medicaid reimbursements, federal salaries, military pay, food stamps (SNAP), and unemployment benefits are all paid in Dollars. These programs would either become worthless or the government would be forced to print trillions more (worsening inflation).
Medium-term - Weeks to months:
Unemployment growth: Companies dependent on imports or dollar-based credit would fail en masse. Retail, manufacturing, transportation, and energy sectors would lay off millions. Unemployment would rapidly rise well into double-digits.
Supply-chain collapse leading to empty shelves: With importers unable to pay in credible currency, ports would empty out with the quickness. Basic goods (medicine, auto parts, fertilizer, semiconductors) would become scarce. Black markets and barter would explode in growth.
Mortgages and debt: Fixed-rate mortgage holders would technically benefit from inflation (they repay with cheaper dollars), but banks would fail or refuse to honor deposits. Adjustable-rate borrowers and anyone with dollar-denominated debt still outstanding would face exploding payments.
Evictions and homelessness surge: Landlords unable to pay property taxes, insurance, or their own mortgages would evict tenants en masse. Rent (now skyrocketing) would become unaffordable for most.
Crime and civil unrest: Expect widespread looting, riots, and violent crime as desperation sets in. National Guard and military deployments to cities would become common.
Long-term - After the first year:
Loss of global reserve status: Foreign nations would dump treasuries and dollars, which would send inflation into overdrive (if it wasn't already). The US would lose its exorbitant privilege of borrowing cheaply in its own currency.
Potential breakup of monetary union: States with large export economies (Texas, for example) or gold/silver reserves might push for state-level alternative currencies or even threaten secession. Regional currencies (something like a “CalExit peso” or “Texas dollar”) could emerge.
Wealth redistribution on steroids: Cash savings and fixed-income retirees would be wiped out. Debtors (especially the government itself) would be bailed out by inflation. Real asset owners (farmland, gold, Bitcoin, commodities) would become the new wealthy class.
Emigration wave: Millions of middle-class and skilled Americans would try to leave for countries with stable currencies (Canada, Switzerland, Singapore, UAE, etc.), though most countries would tighten immigration.
Authoritarian turn likely: In the face of chaos, Americans historically tolerate (and often demand) strong centralized power during crises. Expect martial law in some cities, capital controls, price controls, nationalization of industries, and possibly a forced switch to a new currency (digital dollar, “New Dollar” at 1000:1 conversion, etc.).
This is, of course, all speculation and there are LOTS of different ways this could go down but many of these things would be very possible.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:49 pm to Rohan Gravy
Guns and ammo are the new currency. The South is the new super power.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:49 pm to 98eagle
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If society collapses, farms wont be producing more than they need to survive so there will be a major reduction in food. The populations of most wildlife, domestic pets and farm animals will approach extinction. Then its on to eating insects, unless people are starving to death or killing each other at a faster rate than people killing and eating all available wild and domestic animals.
Bankruptcy, not Armageddon.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:51 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Elon said it’s inevitable
I don’t need Elon to know this. Everyone should think for themselves.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:23 pm to Rohan Gravy
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What does it look like when the USA goes bankrupt?
You’ll want to have plenty of ammunition
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