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re: What do you believe every American is entitled to?

Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Life- We should never let someone die because they cannot afford a life saving medical treatment. However I do not think we should provide treatments that will only extend a life by a few years. Likewise we should never let anyone starve to death, or die of thirst. I feel like everyone pretty much agrees on this. 


Disagree.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38004 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:08 pm to
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People from poor backgrounds should be given enough help
Who's stopping you from helping these poor people?
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39917 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:08 pm to
1/2 gallon Old Charter bottles with a handle on the side.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9866 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:09 pm to
Liberty, but it comes at a price.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38004 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:10 pm to
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Education- Every child should have the right to an education from kindergarten to high school.
Pull out your checkbook and write a big fat check to sponsor one of these kids. Again, who's stopping you from it?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:10 pm to
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Life- We should never let someone die because they cannot afford a life saving medical treatment. However I do not think we should provide treatments that will only extend a life by a few years.

Um. Those two are conflicting viewpoints. I mean, ya know. If I was likely to die tomorrow but you keep me alive 3 more years, I think most people would view that as "life saving". If it aint, then nothing is because we ALL will die SOMETIME.

Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8338 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:10 pm to
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So if somebody has failed to the point where they can't even feed themselves, we should just let them die?


Absolutely not, because that person would undoubtedly have a severe mental disability. What kind of able-bodied person can't stand in line at a soup kitchen or hold up a cardboard sign? Who can't make 5-10 dollars a day?

I'm assuming you're asking what every American is entitled to by government.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39738 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Life- We should never let someone die because they cannot afford a life saving medical treatment. However I do not think we should provide treatments that will only extend a life by a few years. Likewise we should never let anyone starve to death, or die of thirst. I feel like everyone pretty much agrees on this.



Disagree. People are entitled to provide for their own life. If they can't, it is nobody's responsibility to have to provide for these. People will naturally care for them, but they are definitely not entitled to it.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38004 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:11 pm to
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I'm assuming you're asking what every American is entitled to by government.
America 2014
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:13 pm to
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butthole pleasures


Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:14 pm to
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Likewise we should never let anyone starve to death, or die of thirst. I feel like everyone pretty much agrees on this.


I am here as the ultimate culmination of billions of years of a DNA strand battling against immense odds to extend its own life and duplicate itself. It fought from single cell in the primordial ooze against famine and predation all the way to me.

I'll not dishonor that incredible journey and sacrifice by assuming that all of evolution was wrong and that "everyone should get a trophy".

Sorry. I'll help and I'll cheer. But, I'll also let effort and luck continue its magic to create the next / better BHPs by favoring the ones that succeed and allowing the ones that fail to slip away.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:23 pm to
I agree with all of that.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116767 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:28 pm to
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We should never let someone die because they cannot afford a life saving medical treatment.


I can partially agree with this. I just read a Swedish study that said men who play golf live 5 years longer than men who don't. Therefore, I believe govt should pay for my green fees plus a cart.
Posted by TigerFan1977
Carencro, LA
Member since Jan 2007
2016 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:30 pm to
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Opportunity.


You nailed it. This is all any of us are entitled to.
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
The Mothership
Member since Dec 2012
5855 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:31 pm to
2 chicks at the same time.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59615 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:35 pm to
I think most people would agree with what you said and won't have much to add. Except abortion for women
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59615 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Disagree.


expound on your disagreement.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59615 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Wonderful. Now, you go out and make the necessary grades to get into medical school, shut yourself off from the world for about 6 years while you finish up and do residency, and then go out and save all these lives.....for free!
Oh, and while you're doing that, make sure you keep your rent, car, insurance, health insurance, gas, utilities and credit card bills current or your deadbeat arse will be kicked to the curb.


now I know there is an issue with emergency rooms and how people go in a lot of time without insurance but get cared for anyway. Let me ask you this. Someone comes in with a gun shot wound he is in critical condition and will die if you don't act on him immediately, do you check for insurance before you operate? Do you find out if he can pay before you operate? I think it is a problem that people can get free care in an emergency clinic, but it is avoidable in that situation. I personally think it is wrong to not save someone's life just because they can't afford it. I can understand how people's view would change when it comes to life sustaining care and mine does to. I just hope no-one would ever think it is ok to turn someone away from an ER in a life and death situation.
Posted by benhamin5555
Member since Oct 2009
2368 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:44 pm to
Honestly if someone told me they think we should ever turn a dying patient away from an ER, I would have serious doubts about the integrity of that person.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6299 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:03 pm to
To be left the frick alone. Stay out of my refrigerator, wallet, house, bedroom, and communications.
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