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What do liberals consider the reason south of border nations are failed states
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:21 am
Uninhabitable to the point they need unfettered immigration into the US?
And do they believe the poorest and least educated citizens of the failed states can in any way benefit the nation as a whole?
And do they believe the poorest and least educated citizens of the failed states can in any way benefit the nation as a whole?
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 9:24 am
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:32 am to Strannix
Wypipos fault
Just a guess
Just a guess
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:05 am to Strannix
Honestly? I think it’s because we have given far too much foreign aid to Europeans and the Middle East while we forgot about the destabilization of our own neighbors. A lot of an “I’ll get to it later.” attitudes from Presidents over the past 30 years. Combine that with MS-13 moving from Los Angeles to that area, bringing the gang culture there while terrorizing citizens and causing them to flee, and you have what we have now.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:08 am to Strannix
People in South America are all descended from Indians that were left alone until 1500 ad and still couldn’t figure out how to invent the wheel
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:10 am to Strannix
It's our fault for not supporting their people's revolutions.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:12 am to 337Tiger19
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Honestly? I think it’s because we have given far too much foreign aid to Europeans and the Middle East
That doesn't answer the question. Why do the Western Nations need foreign aid from us?
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:12 am to Strannix
Corrupt political officials combined with a largely uneducated populace is not the equation that produces economic stability.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:22 am to ShortyRob
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That doesn't answer the question. Why do the Western Nations need foreign aid from us?
Academics and Historians would tell you that the best way to stop a migration crisis is to remedy the conditions that created it. In a lot of situations that is foreign aid that helps stabilize the country and gives people jobs or a helping hand while they get back on their feet. I agree that we should have stopped aid to at least Europe when World War 2 was no longer something that held that area of the world back.
But strictly answering your question, foreign aid is usually the first thing a country can do to stop people from being forced to leave. Why would they leave if they have supplies, food, jobs, and a future for their children to hope and work for?
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:23 am to Strannix
Because they are filled with the descendants of bloodthirsty people who had a dozen different human sacrifice rituals and love death so much they used human bones as household decorations and tools. There is nothing we can do to make them law abiding or fit for civilization even after giving them the religion that built it, much less turn them all into brain surgeons with magical American soil.
Libs will say it is wypipo fault as is every other country’s failures, but it is not. The truth is that the way the world looks is the way it actually is.
Libs will say it is wypipo fault as is every other country’s failures, but it is not. The truth is that the way the world looks is the way it actually is.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:29 am to 337Tiger19
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Academics and Historians would tell you that the best way to stop a migration crisis is to remedy the conditions that created it.
Malthusians would tell you that the migration crisis is caused by external aid to inferior people. Otherwise, things like disease, famine, war and natural disasters would keep their numbers in check. It's called 'sustainability.' I thought leftists liked that.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:32 am to Zach
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Malthusians would tell you that the migration crisis is caused by external aid to inferior people. Otherwise, things like disease, famine, war and natural disasters would keep their numbers in check. It's called 'sustainability.' I thought leftists liked that
Inferior People? Sorry, I thought we were having a legitimate substantive conversation here. I didn’t hop in the thread to shite on an entire group of people in countries that I’ve never been to. Y’all have fun in yalls circle-jerk
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:33 am to RentSeekAndDestroy
Foreign aid does not fix problems in 3rd world countries.
Here is the usual process. They tax their people, keep the money, then scream to the western world we need clean water/food/sewage plant. Then take the money, offer the construction project to their cousin, who kicks back half to them, it never gets completed. They get moved out of office, replaced by their second cousin (who uses the kickbacks from the previous admin to buy votes) and the whole process is rinsed and repeated.
Pretty much the clinton foundation....without the steroids, cause they are smaller countries.
Here is the usual process. They tax their people, keep the money, then scream to the western world we need clean water/food/sewage plant. Then take the money, offer the construction project to their cousin, who kicks back half to them, it never gets completed. They get moved out of office, replaced by their second cousin (who uses the kickbacks from the previous admin to buy votes) and the whole process is rinsed and repeated.
Pretty much the clinton foundation....without the steroids, cause they are smaller countries.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:38 am to 337Tiger19
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Honestly? I think it’s because we have given far too much foreign aid to Europeans and the Middle East
This only makes sense if all those countries receiving that aid are peaceful, successful nations.
I also laugh at the underlying implication that it's America's fault these countries fail, because we don't give them money.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:45 am to 337Tiger19
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But strictly answering your question, foreign aid is usually the first thing a country can do to stop people from being forced to leave. Why would they leave if they have supplies, food, jobs, and a future for their children to hope and work for?
You still didn't answer.
Why are these nations even in a position of needing the aid
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:00 am to 337Tiger19
We have given billions of dollars to Mexico. It doesn't mean shite if the country we give money to is corrupt. We need to do the opposite.
Cut off the half billion per year lifeline to Mexico and those corrupt arse politicians will start moving.
Cut off the half billion per year lifeline to Mexico and those corrupt arse politicians will start moving.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:02 am to Strannix
These nations are failed states because of unfettered capitalism and in the case of Venezuela a poor execution of socialist policies.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:04 am to ShortyRob
quote:Misallocation of (often abundant) resources.
You still didn't answer.
Why are these nations even in a position of needing the aid
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:05 am to Strannix
The United States of America.
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:06 am to ShortyRob
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Why are these nations even in a position of needing the aid
You’re asking why war-torn countries needed aid? If you’re asking about Central America, they have failed as states because of either too much capitalism/socialism combined with The rise of MS-13 spreading out of LA. You’d have to be more specific about the area of the world you’re referring to though. There are many reasons why a country might need aid; legitimate and illegitimate.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:22 am to 337Tiger19
quote:
You’re asking why war-torn countries needed aid? If you’re asking about Central America, they have failed as states because of either too much capitalism/socialism combined with The rise of MS-13 spreading out of LA. You’d have to be more specific about the area of the world you’re referring to though. There are many reasons why a country might need aid; legitimate and illegitimate.
You're talking about the how
I'm asking about the why
There's no functional reason these places failed while the US and Canada have not
You're telling me HOW they failed
I want to know why
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