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re: What Chance does Ukraine have Sustaining a War Without US Weapons?

Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3181 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:03 pm to
The average age of a soldier in Ukraine is something like 43 years old…..
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6385 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:08 pm to
They have shown Russia to be a paper tiger with nukes
A lot of frauds in the news this week Putin and Vance at the top,
Posted by Mobile Patriot
Mobile
Member since Aug 2024
778 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:08 pm to
I believe that Elon Musk's Satrlink is providing internet connectivity right now. If Elon shuts that down, that would be a big problem for Ukraine.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1833 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:11 pm to
Europe's economy is on par with the US economy. They can fight a war if they are forced to. They are fat and lazy socialist used to being taken care of. Those days are over. Put on your uniform, strap on your rifle - and defend your land Europe. It's not our problem.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
960 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:12 pm to
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They have shown Russia to be a paper tiger with nukes


I don't think you can call someone with nukes a paper tiger. That is why they have nukes.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38194 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:14 pm to
Slim to zero
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80181 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:15 pm to
I saw news from the shot show that they are expecting to bring the Daewoo K2 rifle back to the U.S. later this year.
Posted by DefCon1
Member since Dec 2017
785 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:26 pm to
Zelensky listened to liberal EU leaders, dems, and Rinos. He thinks he can turn public opinion against Trump. His actions yesterday were deliberate. He is an idiot. He just slit his own throat and put his country's future in peril. Can he count on Europe?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:26 pm to
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Hitler did that toward the end of WWII.


The comparison is becoming more relevant with each passing week.

Groups of personnel that no longer exist.

Insistence of using what weapons are left bombing oil refineries hundreds of miles away while the front is getting demolished.

Conscripting old and children.

Maniacal demands with no sense of reality.

Slaughtering his own people.

Thiefing billions in personal wealth.

Is it Hitler or Hamas?? He does resemble both.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27131 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:35 pm to
No chance. My guess is they try to hold it together and hope a Dem globalist gets the WH in 2028. The orchestraters of this conflict want it to go on for decades.
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
335 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:57 pm to
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So you are under the impression the weapons manufacturers in the US will Not manufacture and sell weapons to Europe to give to Ukraine? You really don’t know how this works do you. Lol


I think you haven’t thought this through.

Doesn’t the US govt have to approve those sorts of exports? And whose $ would the Ukrainians use to buy them? European govts might object to giving the Ukrainians money for them to turn around and give it to the US.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1031 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:58 pm to
I do not think U.S. weapon manufactures want to NOT be in compliance with ITAR. It's not in the best interest of the company or the people involved.

FMS is regulated by the state department and coordinated with the DoD. If it is known that the weapons will be transferred to a secondary country that company would be violating ITAR as would the country that purchased the weapons. It would be a huge breach if an ally ignored ITAR. High tech weapons also require FSR's for training and maintenance.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8700 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:44 pm to
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They have shown Russia to be a paper tiger with nukes


Someone with enough nukes to destroy the world isn't a paper tiger.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7461 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:53 pm to
Less than zero
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19325 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:07 pm to
This is why Z doesn’t have the cards. The attempts to draw the US into a boots on the ground war because the MIC and Globalist want that won’t happen with Trump. Herein lies the problem for them.
Posted by Rambler
Coastal Landmass
Member since Jan 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:27 pm to
I don't see Ukraine sustaining a war without US weapons, but that's mainly due to quantities. However, Europe produces a significant amount of their own weapons, including some that the US military uses, like the M240 machine gun and FN-SCAR, both Belgian. Sweden and France produce very high-quality artillery and aircraft, but I don't see them producing enough to maintain the rate of consumption that Ukraine would need. Ukraine can make a lot of drones, obviously. I don't have a handle on production levels of artillery ammo, and that's a big one.
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
441 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:31 pm to
Think the word buy would become problematic if we cut off the tap.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:38 pm to
Yeah, I heard about that. I honestly don’t know much about it.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
7405 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:05 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:15 am to
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Does Japan and S. Korea make some decent weapons they can buy?


No and that would require money as well
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