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re: We're going to see metric tonnes of illegals heading west ....

Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:01 am to
That's absurd

There will still be a lot of manpower required for the cleanup efforts though
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:47 am to
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White native Americans can do these jobs too, but will not.


False, they wont do them for the price illegals will. Illegals dont pay income taxes and are willing to live packed into a dwelling like sardines....so yeah the availability of illegals to work depresses wages and discourages whites from learning those trades.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:55 am to
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They'll set up camps and be paid handsomely to relocate there to join the rebuilding effort.


60 years ago folks born in this country would have made that move.


I would have done it. Im a single man, licensed contractor and homebuilder. Id have gone and worked on framing crews all day in Southern California if it was 1940s California. Hell I might could have started my own framing crew, maybe a full residential contracting business. Now, nobody wants to go there, work for depressed wages and pay super high taxes.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19428 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:56 am to
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Californias permitting process will take years before those homes even begin to be rebuilt.

Not the rich people. There will be "exceptions". Just like for the water. If you pay a little more they will be faster.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:57 am to
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Now, nobody wants to go there, work for depressed wages


Less than a quarter of construction workers in the USA are illegals. There is still plenty of work for native born Americans.

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21538 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:58 am to
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shite.... Makes Tom Holman's job much easier!! He can assign a team and they make weekly runs. Hell, they even use the captured illegals building houses to build a holding camp for their brothers! Love it when a plan comes together!!


It hasn’t been hard to find them literally for decades in Texas. Texas hasn’t had a Democrat win a statewide election in 30 years. Ken Paxton sues and arrests everyone and their mother but how many cases have you seen brought in Texas against companies that hire illegal aliens? I mention this because I think illegal immigration is a great platform to run and raise money on but I doubt they do much of anything. They will definitely round up some felons, but they aren’t going to kill the golden goose for many businesses that is cheap immigrant labor. Mar a Lago had illegal immigrants on staff


Seriously, I have no problem with the ones here that work, pay taxes, and follow our laws. There's just been such a huge influx, it'll be hard to sort thru em all(not speaking about the felons)
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62754 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:59 am to
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There will literally be a shortage of lumber


Let's hope this benefits small timber producers, but I won't hold my breath.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:00 pm to
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There will literally be a shortage of lumber and concrete in this country as everything will be focused upon the SoCal rebuild.
How many houses do you think it is?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Now, nobody wants to go there, work for depressed wages


Less than a quarter of construction workers in the USA are illegals. There is still plenty of work for native born Americans.


How could anyone actually know this? They couldnt

In Southern California...its most certainly not true.

Again, sure there is plenty of work...if Americans are willing to work for dirt cheap wages that illegals work for. Is that the American dream? Working your arse off for just enough $ to rent a small apartment and live with 6 other people?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48154 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:15 pm to
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You realize these are human beings right

OUR outrage is at the DEMOCRAT politicians who lay out these enticing promises and advantages that draw the unfortunate (and many times equally evil) people to take the chance.

You're sorta dropping poisoned candies on the sidewalk = and then making fun of the people who try to stop the kids from trying it.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Californias permitting process will take years before those homes even begin to be rebuilt.

Not the rich people. There will be "exceptions". Just like for the water. If you pay a little more they will be faster


Normally, yes...but California is different. The sheer # of permits they will be issuing MAY lax things a bit, but rich/famous folks have had trouble building there for years, some just giving up entirely. The problem is the people in these departments are leftist, incompetent activists, and frankly jealous. They dont want houses on the coastline at all. If history is any indicator itll be a 3 year process to get to building(according to Adam Carolla)
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2761 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Are the Americans they're undercutting for jobs people who are just trying to do better for themselves and their family?
My point is, if you worked hard to build a business that your family’s livelihood depended on and you needed to hire workers, who are you going to employ? The hard-working immigrant who will give honest work for fair pay, or the local guy who expects more money for less work?

I support free market and capitalism and I respect anyone doing whatever it takes to provide a better life for their family. It’s what we would all do if we’re being honest.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48154 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Working your arse off for just enough $ to rent a small apartment and live with 6 other people?

This is PRECISELY the world that DEMOCRATs want to rule over.

With this kind of population, they are at your mercy. For the minions to object to anything the superiors demand, they get punished = stop the food, kicked out of barracks, imprisoned, or worse.

you have defined the end goal of all DEMOCRAT/SOCIALIST dreams.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:23 pm to
Great, then have the 1st Marine Division drive the pollutants into Baja sea drop in Northern California and have the flanks 25 miles ahead of the task force center and drive all the creeps into Mexico. Trail of tacos.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48154 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:24 pm to
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I support free market and capitalism and I respect anyone doing whatever it takes to provide a better life for their family. It’s what we would all do if we’re being honest.

I suspect you are being honest with your concern.

But you have to recognize the causation of the problem.
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free market and capitalism
only works when honest government is in control. As soon as 'government' dips its toe into the process to gain political advantage (always under the guise of "helping" the downtrodden, oppressed, etc) the whole thing deteriorates to the point of self destruction.

We are witnessing the beginning of this process now - we have been diddling with the economy so long (politicians handing out 'favors' for some advantageous legislation, court rulings, new programs, etc) that we are on a dangerously steep and slippery down-slope.

One more year of neglecting the cure would have been fatal to any way of life you'd like to bequeath to your progeny.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22020 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:31 pm to
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You realize these are human beings right? Most are just trying to better themselves and their families.


Go F yourself! We have millions of illegals already!! We have enough grass cutters for another 5 lifetimes!
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42192 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:34 pm to
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We may see the billionaire class swoop in and buy all the property destroyed, especially the stuff that isn't insured / covered where people can't pay to rebuild from scratch.

Oh, no doubt, Berkshire-Hathaway and Blackrock are licking their chops right now.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154765 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:54 pm to
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You realize these are human beings right? Most are just trying to better themselves and their families.




Why don’t we just float over every single African and take them on.

I mean they are human beings.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27023 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:33 pm to
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My point is, if you worked hard to build a business that your family’s livelihood depended on and you needed to hire workers, who are you going to employ? The hard-working immigrant who will give honest work for fair pay, or the local guy who expects more money for less work?

I support free market and capitalism and I respect anyone doing whatever it takes to provide a better life for their family. It’s what we would all do if we’re being honest.


That was a yes or no question, not a soapbox for you to shite on your own countrymen.

Though, I suppose that within itself is it's own answer: They're not people with families to feed, so you can take jobs from them because of a generalization you have.

Thanks for the honesty.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:34 pm to
hey idiot!

I’ve been doing it the LEGAL WAY for my fiance to move here from Venezuala/Colombia.

We started the process in May/June, cost thousands of dollars, very hard, emotional process to be apart from each other. BUT WE ARE DOING IT LEGALLY!!!

She is still down there and we are hoping USCIS will set up our EMBASSY MEETING & interview and then get the VISA!

Hoping by APRIL’ish she can move here!

and she was lucky to get out of Venezuala in time, just today, Venezuala went FULL NORTH KOREA and she is devastated for her family still trapped in basic captivity now down there. MILITARY ON THE STREETS & confined to their homes and work, NOTHING ELSE!

They are “only humans too” a-hole, you sound like a typical Uptown Tulane Liberal POS, Carville type on this board along with Slow fig Pro!

Post less you prick!

signed, someone that is going thru the legal process and it’s a JOURNEY! All the while, these Illegals are getting paid & taking over our country

GFY
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