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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:39 pm
This infuriates me. I have to pay taxes for this.
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When Willie Nash was booked into a Mississippi corrections facility, officers failed to confiscate his phone. For that, he was sentenced to 12 years behind bars. The state's Supreme Court acknowledges that proper booking procedure was probably not followed and that Nash did not seem to know his phone was illegal, but they nonetheless ruled Thursday that the sentence is fair.
After Nash was booked into the Newton County Jail on a misdemeanor charge, he asked a jailer to charge his phone, seemingly unaware that he was not supposed to have the item. Mississippi Code Section 47-5-193 considers the possession behind bars of "any weapon, deadly weapon, unauthorized electronic device, contraband item, or cell phone" a felony; the offense carries a prison sentence of three to 15 years.
Meanwhile, we have hundreds of people in state custody posting on Facebook.
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When Willie Nash was booked into a Mississippi corrections facility, officers failed to confiscate his phone. For that, he was sentenced to 12 years behind bars. The state's Supreme Court acknowledges that proper booking procedure was probably not followed and that Nash did not seem to know his phone was illegal, but they nonetheless ruled Thursday that the sentence is fair.
After Nash was booked into the Newton County Jail on a misdemeanor charge, he asked a jailer to charge his phone, seemingly unaware that he was not supposed to have the item. Mississippi Code Section 47-5-193 considers the possession behind bars of "any weapon, deadly weapon, unauthorized electronic device, contraband item, or cell phone" a felony; the offense carries a prison sentence of three to 15 years.
Meanwhile, we have hundreds of people in state custody posting on Facebook.
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:40 pm to anc
Did he hide it in his bunghole?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:45 pm to Rammin TX
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Did he hide it in his bunghole?
No. It was in his pocket and he told the guard.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:47 pm to anc
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probably
Any time that word is used, the case, sentence or whatever should be thrown out immediately.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:49 pm to anc
dear God, does the Governor of Mississippi not have pardon authority?
this is one of the most outrageous things I have seen in years
frick Mississippi for this
this is one of the most outrageous things I have seen in years
frick Mississippi for this
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:52 pm to dcbl
We had two governors today. Either one of them could have pardoned him.
I'm afraid Mississippis recent progress is about to be overshadowed by absolute corruption in our prison system.
I'm afraid Mississippis recent progress is about to be overshadowed by absolute corruption in our prison system.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:55 pm to dcbl
Yep, if I’m a voter there and the governor doesn’t issue a pardon, I’m voting for someone else. Anyone else. 15 years because a guard can’t do their job is beyond fricked.
Too bad the ACLU has gone down the toilet. This is the shite they need to be spending their time on.
Too bad the ACLU has gone down the toilet. This is the shite they need to be spending their time on.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:13 pm to anc
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Section 47-5-193 considers the possession behind bars of "any weapon, deadly weapon, unauthorized electronic device, contraband item, or cell phone"
How in the hell are deadly weapons and cell phones lumped under the same law and penalty? I get 15 years whether I have smuggled in an iPhone or a machete? This reeks of zero-tolerance type bullshite where people are too scared to make logical decisions and just want to pass the buck
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:18 pm to funnystuff
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Yep, if I’m a voter there and the governor doesn’t issue a pardon, I’m voting for someone else. Anyone else. 15 years because a guard can’t do their job is beyond fricked.
Settle down Nancy, there is a reason he linked the most left wing progressive rag out there, that is one very slanted side of a story.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:27 pm to cave canem
Do you have a better version?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:04 am to the808bass
He should have challanged the conviction not the sentence. His argument that the court create new tiers of punishment was dead from the get go.
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:20 am to cave canem
Ok. So pretty much the same story. Years in prison for cellphone possession.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:47 am to the808bass
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Ok. So pretty much the same story.
If you are very simple minded yes.
He made a very specific legal argument that was denied, he should have made a different one.
His argument should have been against the conviction due to half assed and shitty work done by the prison, instead he argued the sentence and law was unfair, these are two very different things.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 1:32 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:41 am to cave canem
Except the sentence and the law are unfair. It’s not like he was wrong about that.
Also, I very much doubt that “he” was the one to make these arguments. His lawyer decided on the path to go, and I can certainly feel sympathy for a guy who is sent to prison for 15 years simply because he can’t afford to drop tens of thousands of dollars on a high priced lawyer. Especially when he should have never needed one in the first place since, you know, it was a fricking cell phone!
Do you work in law? Your white knighting here seems extremely strange. Only thing I can guess is you are a lawyer or judge and are reflexively defending the system you are a part of. But if that’s the case, I’d encourage you to take a step back and reevaluate, because the law got this one dead arse wrong. This punishment flat out does not match this “crime”.
Also, I very much doubt that “he” was the one to make these arguments. His lawyer decided on the path to go, and I can certainly feel sympathy for a guy who is sent to prison for 15 years simply because he can’t afford to drop tens of thousands of dollars on a high priced lawyer. Especially when he should have never needed one in the first place since, you know, it was a fricking cell phone!
Do you work in law? Your white knighting here seems extremely strange. Only thing I can guess is you are a lawyer or judge and are reflexively defending the system you are a part of. But if that’s the case, I’d encourage you to take a step back and reevaluate, because the law got this one dead arse wrong. This punishment flat out does not match this “crime”.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:42 am to anc
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considers the possession behind bars of "any weapon, deadly weapon, unauthorized electronic device, contraband item, or cell phone" a felony; the offense carries a prison sentence of three to 15 years.
Weapon or contraband ok I get it. Seems that cell phone or electronics should be in a seperate class that only carries a few months.
12 years for having a cell phone is ludicrous
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:03 am to cave canem
His lawyer absolutely made the correct argument to preserve the issue for appeal. That law is retarded and needs to be done away with.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:23 am to cave canem
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If you are very simple minded yes.
He made a very specific legal argument that was denied, he should have made a different one.
His argument should have been against the conviction due to half assed and shitty work done by the prison, instead he argued the sentence and law was unfair, these are two very different things.
His lawyer*
No matter how you cut it 12 years in jail for unknowingly breaking a cell phone law is horseshite. This shouldn't even be debatable.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:45 am to NIH
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His lawyer absolutely made the correct argument to preserve the issue for appeal.
Agreed but going after the conviction itself would be more fruitful.
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That law is retarded and needs to be done away with.
Never going to happen in any State or FedGov prison, inmates will never be allowed phones, the Feds will also lock up anyone who provided an inmate with a phone.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:52 am to cave canem
Can you really not accept a distinction between “cellphones should not be allowed in prison” and “having a guard forget to take your cell phone away from you when checking you in is grounds for 12 years in jail”?
No one is saying cell phones should be allowed in prison. Everyone (except you) recognizes that this individual should not be sentenced to 12 years because of a guard failing to do their job.
No one is saying cell phones should be allowed in prison. Everyone (except you) recognizes that this individual should not be sentenced to 12 years because of a guard failing to do their job.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:53 am to deltaland
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considers the possession behind bars of "any weapon, deadly weapon, unauthorized electronic device, contraband item, or cell phone" a felony; the offense carries a prison sentence of three to 15 years.
Weapon or contraband ok I get it. Seems that cell phone or electronics should be in a seperate class that only carries a few months.
12 years for having a cell phone is ludicrous
Logically speaking, it seems like there should be WAY more to the story. Was he phoning a hitman to take down a snitch or something? 12 years is on the harsher side and given the circumstances in the article, it should be thrown out entirely.
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