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re: Washington furious over Kyiv's breakdown of talks — Washington Post
Posted on 4/23/25 at 3:58 pm to John Barron
Posted on 4/23/25 at 3:58 pm to John Barron
Walk away.
Walk. Away.
Zelensky is a globalist puppet. he will do what his handlers want. They want war, and they want a fight with Putin because he doesnt play the globalist game. They need us to fund this war to make it last longer. We are trying to help someone that does not want help. And by "helping Ukraine" we are making things worse for the Ukrainian people by lengthening this unwinnable war. the US walking away would bring an end to this war and bring peace to Ukraine.
Walk. Away.
Zelensky is a globalist puppet. he will do what his handlers want. They want war, and they want a fight with Putin because he doesnt play the globalist game. They need us to fund this war to make it last longer. We are trying to help someone that does not want help. And by "helping Ukraine" we are making things worse for the Ukrainian people by lengthening this unwinnable war. the US walking away would bring an end to this war and bring peace to Ukraine.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 4:04 pm
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 3:58 pm to alphaandomega
quote:During the US fabricated coup in Ukraine in 2014 the Ukranians militarily attacked the citizens that lived in the presently referenced occupied territories
If the midget doesnt want to settle we should walk away. No more money or aid.
They should have no say concerning their presence in those territories now
Piss off CIA, US State department, Nuland, those backing Nuland, Zelensky, Ukraine military.
Your treacherous asses were, and remain, the original evil in this situation.
(not to mention the other 16 episodes of your treachery)
and Larry Fink, stay the F out of Ukraine
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:00 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
Appreciate it, but I was hoping for an archived link. I don't want to register for an account to read the story, and it is behind a paywall for me.
Ok, it wasn’t for me for some reason.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:01 pm to LegendInMyMind
I had Grok do a summary of the article for you Legend
"The Washington Post article titled "High-level Ukraine peace talks in London scratched after U.S. pullout," published on April 23, 2025, reports that high-level talks scheduled in London to discuss ending Russia’s war in Ukraine were downgraded after top U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and special envoy Steve Witkoff, abruptly canceled their attendance. The decision came amid tensions with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who insisted on a full ceasefire before negotiations and rejected U.S. proposals to recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea and freeze current battle lines. European diplomats, expecting a foreign minister-level meeting, scaled back to lower-level discussions after Rubio’s withdrawal, which the State Department attributed to scheduling issues.
The article highlights a growing rift between Washington and Kyiv, with the Trump administration pushing for quick territorial concessions to end the conflict, while Zelensky emphasized Ukraine’s constitutional stance against ceding territory, particularly Crimea. Vice President JD Vance, speaking in India, warned that the U.S. might abandon peace efforts if Russia and Ukraine do not agree soon, proposing a freeze of territorial lines with both sides giving up some controlled areas. European allies, including France, Britain, and Germany, expressed concerns about the U.S. approach and sought security guarantees and reconstruction support for Ukraine. The collapse of the high-level talks underscored significant differences between U.S., Ukrainian, and European positions on achieving peace."
"The Washington Post article titled "High-level Ukraine peace talks in London scratched after U.S. pullout," published on April 23, 2025, reports that high-level talks scheduled in London to discuss ending Russia’s war in Ukraine were downgraded after top U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and special envoy Steve Witkoff, abruptly canceled their attendance. The decision came amid tensions with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who insisted on a full ceasefire before negotiations and rejected U.S. proposals to recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea and freeze current battle lines. European diplomats, expecting a foreign minister-level meeting, scaled back to lower-level discussions after Rubio’s withdrawal, which the State Department attributed to scheduling issues.
The article highlights a growing rift between Washington and Kyiv, with the Trump administration pushing for quick territorial concessions to end the conflict, while Zelensky emphasized Ukraine’s constitutional stance against ceding territory, particularly Crimea. Vice President JD Vance, speaking in India, warned that the U.S. might abandon peace efforts if Russia and Ukraine do not agree soon, proposing a freeze of territorial lines with both sides giving up some controlled areas. European allies, including France, Britain, and Germany, expressed concerns about the U.S. approach and sought security guarantees and reconstruction support for Ukraine. The collapse of the high-level talks underscored significant differences between U.S., Ukrainian, and European positions on achieving peace."
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:07 pm to John Barron
The above synopsis is not the same as this synopsis: you wrote:
quote:
Washington furious over Kyiv's breakdown of talks — Washington Post ??The negotiations in London were disrupted due to Ukraine’s unwillingness to give up its territories. ?"The discord comes amid anger in Washington over Kyiv's reluctance to accept proposals to cede territory to Russia," the publication writes. ??According to an official familiar with the situation, "Kyiv prefers to "first discuss a full ceasefire and everything else later."
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:09 pm to Tmcgin
quote:
Putin played Trump and Zelensky does not need us now.
Putin? You are confused. Trump and Putin could easily come to an agreement but the globalist will fight a losing fight until the last Ukrainian fighter defects or dies, while holding out hope that the rest of Europe will be engulfed by the carnage.
Zelensky needs us more than ever. But more than that he needs more bodies to sacrafice. His front lines are slowly being killed or deserting faster than they can kidnap people of the streets to take their place untrained.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:24 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:
We are trying to help someone that does not want help.
Proof that they’d be a nightmare as a NATO member.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:35 pm to doubleb
quote:
It’s not what the Russian guy on X said. He is paraphrasing to slant the story for propaganda reasons.
You would have.
To be brain dead not to believe the white house is furious over with that jackass is saying
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:41 pm to Tmcgin
quote:
Putin played Trump and Zelensky does not need us now.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:06 pm to Tmcgin
quote:
We are irrelevant to this war now
Putin played Trump and Zelensky does not need us now.
so stupid, amazing really
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:07 pm to John Barron
quote:
over Kyiv's
Kiev's
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:16 pm to John Barron
frick Grok. I understand whats happening.
$200 billion of your and my tax dollars have been wasted and stolen for nothing. It has achieved fricking zero.
The Ukrainian people aren't my problem. If they want something different, let em revolt.
Trump is dropping the ball on this one.
There remains no other option except walking away, delete Zylenskis number. Chalk it up to a loss.
We need every tax dollar here in America to help America.
$200 billion of your and my tax dollars have been wasted and stolen for nothing. It has achieved fricking zero.
The Ukrainian people aren't my problem. If they want something different, let em revolt.
Trump is dropping the ball on this one.
There remains no other option except walking away, delete Zylenskis number. Chalk it up to a loss.
We need every tax dollar here in America to help America.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:18 pm to John Barron
quote:
I had Grok do a summary
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:19 pm to ChatGPT of LA
quote:
You would have.
To be brain dead not to believe the white house is furious over with that jackass is saying
Ya think??? I can't fricking tell! Like a bad relationship, just stop talking and walk away.
This is beyond repair. Chalk it up as a loss and walk away. If Trump doesn't walk away, he's failed.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:25 pm to 14&Counting
quote:Excellent point!!
Of course you use a Russian based X account as your source...
At least he didn’t link his own X account to get clicks
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:26 pm to John Barron
quote:
I had Grok do a summary of the article for you Legend
That's not what I asked for, John. From you, though......it is what I expected.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:27 pm to John Barron
When is Trump going to realize that Putin is not serious? If Putin was serious about peace then he would agree to the 30 day ceasefire and stop sending ballistic missiles into apartment buildings. Why should Ukraine even consider ceding territory when Russia cannot even honor its own Easter ceasefire?
ETA: Anyone who believes that the Russians can be trusted are either lying to themselves or just downright stupid.
ETA: Anyone who believes that the Russians can be trusted are either lying to themselves or just downright stupid.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:44 pm to doubleb
Three possible reasons.
His puppeteers still want to milk that war for a few more years..and are desperately hoping they can stretch the war out until trump is out of office..and they can start receiving full funding again.
Or..
Zelensky had broken away from his puppeteers and knows that if the war ends, his dictatorship will also end. He desperately wants to cling to that power.
Or..
Zelensky truly bought into all that bullshite about him being a great leader and hero.. and knows that officially giving up the territory he has already lost... would make him seem very weak. He'd rather get every Ukrainian peasant killed, than appear weak..
His puppeteers still want to milk that war for a few more years..and are desperately hoping they can stretch the war out until trump is out of office..and they can start receiving full funding again.
Or..
Zelensky had broken away from his puppeteers and knows that if the war ends, his dictatorship will also end. He desperately wants to cling to that power.
Or..
Zelensky truly bought into all that bullshite about him being a great leader and hero.. and knows that officially giving up the territory he has already lost... would make him seem very weak. He'd rather get every Ukrainian peasant killed, than appear weak..
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:47 pm to AnotherWin4LSU
quote:
When is Trump going to realize that Putin is not serious?
Your an idiot. A complete fool. There's no use to waste any words on your fricked off perspective.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:50 pm to texag7
quote:
Zelensky needs to be taken out
You think he has decision making authority? Kek.
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