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re: Washington Examiner Drops bombshell On Ben Sasse
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:22 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:22 pm to Jjdoc
quote:But she wasn't according to all of the polls that people are now citing as a reason Biden will win.
Hillary Clinton was literally the most unpopular candidate in the history of polling.”
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:24 pm to Pettifogger
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A majority of that is either true or seems quite plausible.
Literally none of it is true.
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“The way he kisses dictators' butts. I mean, the way he ignores the Uighurs, our literal concentration camps in Xinjiang. Right now, he hasn't lifted a finger on behalf of the Hong-Kongers," he said. "The United States now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership, the way he treats women, spends like a drunken sailor. He mocks evangelicals behind closed doors. His family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity. He's flirted with white supremacists."
You made the assertion, it's on you to back that up. We await the evidence.
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The constant fight to make a mediocre human being into a great one is not something I'll ever understand. He doesn't need to be a great person.
Who is doing that? Nobody. The truth is that there is no need to lie. He is what he claims to not like.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:25 pm to Figgy
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If “moderates” are willing to embrace the Marxist agenda that the dems have adopted than they weren’t really ever moderate to begin with. Let alone embracing it because of how they perceive the behavior of one man rather than his actions.
These people don’t know what they’re embracing. Most people really don’t know what they actually stand for politically in terms of policy. They stand for candidates first and policies second.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:25 pm to Jjdoc
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The United States now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership,
You mean the same "friends" that are happy to allow the US to pay billions for their basic needs. frick them! We don't have "friends". We have spoiled step children who only like us as long as the money is flowing
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"I think the overwhelming reason that President Trump won in 2016 was simply because Hillary Clinton was literally the most unpopular candidate in the history of polling.”
Yes Ben. That's why. But query? How did he make it through the 17 person Republican primary against so many "real conservatives"? Was that because HRC is unpopular? Or is it because your base got tiredly of you feckless losers pretending to fight for them? Trump is POTUS because you and your ilk nominated RINO's like McCain and Romney.
This may come as a surprise to you Ben, but conservative leaning voters hate the GOPe only slightly less than they hate Democrats. Trump is not POTUS because of the unlikableness of HRC. He POTUS because of the unlikableness of YOU!
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:28 pm to Jjdoc
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Literally none of it is true.
An assertion you won't attempt to backup. You'll give platitudes, just like Sasse.
There is a huge gulf between people who support the President because of his usefulness to the country and those who support him out of blood loyalty to the man.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:32 pm to Pettifogger
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A majority of that is either true or seems quite plausible.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:32 pm to Jjdoc
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Sasse holds a bachelor's degree in government from Harvard University, Master of Arts in Liberal Studies
Too bad it is too late to primary him.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:51 pm to Pettifogger
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An assertion you won't attempt to backup. You'll give platitudes, just like Sasse.
No no. I see that you are ignoring it. You KNOW that's not how this works..... It's why you are running again.
You did this in the prior election of 2016 too.
Sassy made the claim, you backed him up and said it's true. It's on you to lay out that evidence. You know this. But you won't do it, because you know it's all false.
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There is a huge gulf between people who support the President because of his usefulness to the country and those who support him out of blood loyalty to the man.
No... That's not the topic and has nothing to do with what Sassy stated and your claim that he is telling the truth. Stay on topic.
In other words, defend your your claim with some facts.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:54 pm to Jjdoc
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No no. I see that you are ignoring it. You KNOW that's not how this works..... It's why you are running again.
You're doing exactly what you accuse Sasse of doing, you make a bold proclamation and provide no evidence of it.
It's bizarre that we're both weighing in on the statement of someone else (someone in a better position to know some of this than either of us - comments about evangelicals, for example) - yet you somehow think the evidentiary burden lies only with one of us.
Not how it works, friend.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:54 pm to Jjdoc
Trump's twitter and camera time is all you need to see that Sasse isn't to far off with this.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 4:07 pm to Pettifogger
No. You do this all the time. Thats not how it works. In other words, you and Sasse would have failed any debate.
He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, you must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate.
The debate started with Sasse making the claim and you repeated that claim.
Where is your evidence?
He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, you must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate.
The debate started with Sasse making the claim and you repeated that claim.
Where is your evidence?
Posted on 10/15/20 at 4:08 pm to hawkeye007
Waiting for you to find the evidence of his claim.
Until then....
Until then....
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:15 am to Jjdoc
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His family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity.
Sasse went postal on Trump but this is really the main issue. The whole thing is just a reality show to the family and worse, a way to grift off the general public.
Trump and family could care less about their base, and that is particularly true of a large number of evangelicals who backbend to support him.
What will really make heads explode in corners like the TD poli board.... is when Biden eventually pardons the whole family so the country can move on from their circus.
Go ahead and bookmark this and let’s talk 1 year from now.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:24 am to TejasHorn
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What will really make heads explode in corners like the TD poli board.... is when Biden eventually pardons the whole family so the country can move on from their circus.
Go ahead and bookmark this and let’s talk 1 year from
Check in November 4th
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:26 am to DemoJay
quote:I agree.
Should Sasse have said this? No.
Does that make any of this incorrect? Also, no.
I'm voting Trump here in a couple weeks, but I can understand why people don't like the guy. I would bet you most of what Sasse says here is true.
The problem here is the alternative is so dangerous and destructive to this country and our democracy, that Trump literally is far, and away, the ONLY real reasonable choice we have.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:29 am to Jjdoc
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his "stupid political obsessions" could drive the country further to the Left. “If young people become permanent Democrats because they've just been repulsed by the obsessive nature of our politics, or if women who were willing to still vote with the Republican Party in 2016 decide that they need to turn away from this party permanently in the future," Sasse said.
What an assclown.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:30 am to jlovel7
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Ben Sasse said that because he’s afraid trump will alienate moderates to go left. And the left to go further left. I don’t think those fears are misplaced.
These are the fears of pussies.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:32 am to Pettifogger
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A majority of that is either true or seems quite plausible.
I remember when this board wanted Ben to run for Prez
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:49 am to Jjdoc
i'm not saying that he's wrong. he may have heard from people who said those things. however, those reasons are pathetic and stupid
not this again
quote:ah. so you want ww3 with the chinese where millions and millions of people die. got it. listen, tariffs are one thing. meddling in their domestic affairs is another. china isn't korea or vietnam
I mean, the way he ignores the Uighurs, our literal concentration camps in Xinjiang. Right now, he hasn't lifted a finger on behalf of the Hong-Kongers
quote:which is how? just the other day he was complimenting angela merkel. you mean like that kind of treatment?
the way he treats women
quote:ok now there's some truth to this. conservatives are not crazy about his spending
spends like a drunken sailor
quote:false
His family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity
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He's flirted with white supremacists
not this again quote:well then they are snowflakes and that's THEIR fault, not trump's. trump is polarizing which we need. no more business as usual in dc. that's what it's going to take to drain the swamp and trump supporters love what he's accomplished on that front. he mentions these snowflakes but doesn't talk about walkaways and people who got redpilled.
If young people become permanent Democrats because they've just been repulsed by the obsessive nature of our politics, or if women who were willing to still vote with the Republican Party in 2016 decide that they need to turn away from this party permanently in the future
quote:then don't spend time on twitter. it's a cesspool.
they don't really want more rage tweeting as a new form of entertainment
quote:well, that and the fact that people felt like trump was giving them a voice. if what he said was true, there wouldn't still be a great deal of trump support across the country. just look at the ratings for the interview with rush
the overwhelming reason that President Trump won in 2016 was simply because Hillary Clinton was literally the most unpopular candidate in the history of polling
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:56 am to Alt26
quote:this is one of the most overlooked aspects of conservatives over the last 20 years. when people talk about "trumpkins" and trump supporters being a cult, they have no idea that trump supporters voted for trump to not only take out the liberals but also the ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS. the rinos are equally at fault for how things are because they didn't fight back when the libs started going crazy
conservative leaning voters hate the GOPe only slightly less than they hate Democrats
it's absolutely the same thing that the squad is trying to do to the moderate dems.
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