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Was Trump more or less popular the second time around?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 2:57 pm
He picked up 12 million new votes (that made it through the fraud).
Has an incumbent ever gained 12 million new votes (that made it through the fraud) and lost an election?
Has an incumbent ever gained 12 million new votes (that made it through the fraud) and lost an election?
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 2:58 pm
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:00 pm to prplngldtigr
Probably more popular in pure numbers or as a percentage of Republicans. But even considering all allegations of fraud, using 2020 as a barometer on voter totals and votes gained compared to prior elections is silly.
There simply was much higher turnout. The totals were always going to be bigger for both sides than they were previously.
No matter what you think of the results, I don’t think anyone should have trouble believing that total votes cast in 2020 were higher than most prior elections.
There simply was much higher turnout. The totals were always going to be bigger for both sides than they were previously.
No matter what you think of the results, I don’t think anyone should have trouble believing that total votes cast in 2020 were higher than most prior elections.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:00 pm to prplngldtigr
Much more popular; there were a lot of people that bought the narrative the first time around. He picked up percentage points on both Hispanic and Black votes.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:03 pm to Indefatigable
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There simply was much higher turnout.
The numbers sure would indicate that, wouldn't it?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:09 pm to prplngldtigr
He was packing 50K people into aircraft hangars while Sleepy couldn't draw 10 folks along to a Snoop Dogg concert.
Ask yourself that again.
Ask yourself that again.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:10 pm to Indefatigable
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Probably not. But even considering all allegations of fraud, using 2020 as a barometer on voter totals and votes gained compared to prior elections is silly.
The allegations of fraud and excessive voter turn out ONLY happened on the Democrat side…….
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:10 pm to Indefatigable
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No matter what you think of the results, I don’t think anyone should have trouble believing that total votes cast in 2020 were higher than most prior elections.
Right. Anyone could see that voter enthusiasm was at an all time high at those Biden rallies. When you add the 100%+ voter participation in so man marxist democrat strongholds, turnout is bound to be much higher, right?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:11 pm to VoxDawg
Trump was an extremely polarizing candidate.
It makes sense to everyone who doesn’t believe he was secretly the most popular president ever.
It makes sense to everyone who doesn’t believe he was secretly the most popular president ever.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:11 pm to VoxDawg
I don’t understand why that point is so controversial.
Voter turnout being higher than usual does not vitiate or undermine any allegation of fraud, impropriety, or anything else alleged about election frickery.
Just saying “there were more votes in 2020” than past elections is not a controversial statement. And anyone who was paying attention knew that would be the case the entire cycle. Again—that has NOTHING to do with any fraud that occurred.
Voter turnout being higher than usual does not vitiate or undermine any allegation of fraud, impropriety, or anything else alleged about election frickery.
Just saying “there were more votes in 2020” than past elections is not a controversial statement. And anyone who was paying attention knew that would be the case the entire cycle. Again—that has NOTHING to do with any fraud that occurred.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:11 pm to troyt37
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Anyone could see that voter enthusiasm was at an all time high at those Biden rallies.
Do you actually think that is an indicator of voter turnout? Particularly in 2020 when the entire left was worshipping at the altar of “stay home at all costs”?
Again, nothing about acknowledging higher voter turnout in any way impacts whether there was voter fraud. It is possible for higher turnout and fraud to have occured. In fact, I would say that is incredibly likely, and the higher turnout is exactly what allowed any instance of fraud to be swept under the rug.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:14 pm to prplngldtigr
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Has an incumbent ever gained 12 million new votes (that made it through the fraud) and lost an election?
no incumbent has ever lost when gaining votes which is another reason the commies cheated
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:16 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:31 pm to Indefatigable
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Just saying “there were more votes in 2020” than past elections is not a controversial statement. And anyone who was paying attention knew that would be the case the entire cycle.
What made it obvious that this would be the case?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:33 pm to prplngldtigr
There was a lot of enthusiasm for Biden during the campaign. You people are forgetting the throngs at his innovative car rallies.
Des Moines rally!
Des Moines rally!
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:33 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What made it obvious that this would be the case?
Increased engagement in politics generally, on both sides of the aisle. That came from Trump himself plus the general Twitter effect.
Then came the pandemic and all of the states rushed to enable more voting by mail, etc.
I don't know how anyone who was alive and paid attention during Trump's term in office did not see that there was always going to be heightened participation on both sides. It was never going to be comparable numbers-wise, to prior reelection POTUS years.
And again, that is not controversial. My point is that the increase in raw vote totals doesn't really indicate anything on its own when turnout was always going to be higher. The totals were never going to be at 2004 or 2012 levels, regardless of the impact of any fraud that occured.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:34 pm to prplngldtigr
Way more the second
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:37 pm to prplngldtigr
I'm a firm believer that some of the key counties re-ran stacks of ballots. Those stacks of ballots contained votes for both Trump & Biden, but Biden had a higher percentage in those stacks. So if those stacks were 80/20 Biden, Trump's vote count still got a bump.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 4:36 pm to CubsFanBudMan
By voter turnout, they include mail in ballots filled out by someone that may or may not have been the actual voter.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 4:55 pm to Indefatigable
quote:yeah, all those rip roaring crowds of 20 people was what convinced me...
No matter what you think of the results, I don’t think anyone should have trouble believing that total votes cast in 2020 were higher than most prior elections.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 5:56 pm to Indefatigable
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There simply was much higher turnout.
It's not really "turnout" when you mail out millions of ballots to every name in the database, with no accountability or oversight, and allow receipt and processing of those ballots to extend past election day. Not to mention all of the technical irregularities.
That wasn't an election, it was a parlor game.
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