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re: Was the "animals" meme the most dishonest media moment of the Trump presidency?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:11 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:11 am to ShortyRob
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A lie where all of the major news organizations........NEWS organizations..........conspire to lie is worse.
Okay so you’re saying that when conservative media lie it’s okay because they aren’t real news? Even though they present their lies as fact? That makes it okay? Help me out here.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:11 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
ShortyRob was right and I was wrong.
Tried to warn ya
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:12 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay so you’re saying that when conservative media lie it’s okay because they aren’t real news?
You're all in Cathy at this point.
How pathetic.
Yeah. A lie is bad
A lie where all of the major news organizations........NEWS organizations..........conspire to lie is worse.
frick man. Are you serious here?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:12 am to ShortyRob
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A lie where all of the major news organizations........NEWS organizations..........conspire to lie is worse.
yeah a single Fox News host reporting false stuff is bad, but it's not a collective effort between the GOP, FNC, and hundreds of other outlets to report that falsity. the second scenario is what occurred yesterday
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay so what’s the threshold that divides mainstream media from now mainstream media? How many viewers/listeners/clicks does it take before it’s not okay to lie?
MSM is about 90% of all news media and is left wing.
All network TV news
All newspapers
90% of cable TV news
Alternative News is 10% and right wing.
All of talk radio.
10% of cable
The lying issue is false equivalence on your part. They all lie. The difference is degree. Rush lies once a year. Wapo lies 10 times a day .
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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yeah a single Fox News host reporting false stuff is bad,
It's absurd.
"Hey DC.......did you catch where every fricking major news outlet ran with the same concocted lie at once?"
"Yeah, but there was this one Fox host........"
I mean Good God
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:15 am to ShortyRob
the really bad part is how they're literally connected to the DEM party. even if all of FNC was connected to the GOP in the same way (and they're not, b/c there is a much larger swath of opinions at FNC b/c the "right" is much more fractured), that's still coordination with one outlet. the DEMs are coordinated with EVERY other major outlet
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:15 am to Sun God
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You just keep moving the goal posts
You’re projecting
I’m asking why you call out one sides lie and not the others and all I get back are mental gymnastics about exposure and the like.
So okay if it’s about exposure thenwhats the threshold? How many viewers/clicks/listeners doesn’t it take? Give me some conservative outlets you’ll accept as mainstream and ill pull up their lies for you.
The issue here is you’re claiming y’all care about media honesty while ignoring or in some cases accepting as fact the lies of the media outlets you like.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 11:16 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:16 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Hey DC.......did you catch where every fricking major news outlet ran with the same concocted lie at once?"
"Yeah, but there was this one Fox host........"
I mean Good God
It’s truly amazing and he’s obviously trolling at this point
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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the really bad part is how they're literally connected to the DEM party
Well let's be honest here. NONE of the News Outlets thought of this shite on their own. If they had, one of them would have been first.
They ALL ran with it at the same time.
THAT has DNC fingerprints.
fricking DC want's to list random shite from non news people like it's the same thing.
He's humiliating himself. 
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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the DEMs are coordinated with EVERY other major outlet
And it was proven by the release of the emails. Which is really the only reason why Dems like DS care about the emails...because they got caught.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:17 am to BeeFense5
He must be fired up from the Reuben Foster news
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:17 am to ShortyRob
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I mean Good God
You asked for examples and I gave you examples. I knew no matter what I posted you’d find a way to dismiss it, which was the whole point I didn’t want to go link chasing in the first place.
How many more links do you want? Give me some outlets you’ll accept and I’ll pull up their lies. Why are lies only bad if coordinated?
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:18 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:It isnt' about exposure. I realize you want to avoid what it's about........but that's a you problem.
So okay if it’s about exposure thenwhats the threshold?
Sheesh........this is why people see you for the POS you are
quote:
Give me some conservative outlets you’ll accept as mainstream and ill pull up their lies for you.
You can use whichever NEWS outlets you like. Or, combination of NEWS outlets with talking heads.
Now show me an example where they did anything remotely similar to what happened with the animals lie.
You can't.
Because if you could, you would have already
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:19 am to ShortyRob
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It's absurd.
"Hey DC.......did you catch where every fricking major news outlet ran with the same concocted lie at once?"
"Yeah, but there was this one Fox host........"
I mean Good God
I'm disappointed that I started out trying to treat the man with respect and he insulted me with such stupid responses
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:19 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Give me some conservative outlets you’ll accept as mainstream and ill pull up their lies for you.
there are like, 4-5
FNC
Washington Times
WSJ
The Economist
if you want to see the echo chamber/bias, this chart is still gold
yes, NPR, the BBC, Wapo, NYT, ABC, NBC, CBS, and USA Today all have "minimal" bias
hell the put Reason halfway in "Hyperpartisan"
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Nope. Ya didn't.
You asked for examples and I gave you examples.
quote:You knew this because you knew you couldn't come up with any widespread coordinated concocted lie from news organizations
I knew no matter what I posted you’d find a way to dismiss it,
quote:One that actually is similar. Just one.
How many more links do you want?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:20 am to ShortyRob
I’m not going to go looking anymore without you telling me what you’ll accept. Why don’t you give me some specific outlets or people you’d accept so that I know we’re on the same page as to what’s acceptable.
That shouldn’t be hard right? Unless your position is that no conservative outlets are accountable for their lies of course.
That shouldn’t be hard right? Unless your position is that no conservative outlets are accountable for their lies of course.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:20 am to ShortyRob
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Now show me an example where they did anything remotely similar to what happened with the animals lie.
He can’t because there is
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Remotely similar
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
Drac Sanctions the white knight of CNN and MSM
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