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re: Was the "animals" meme the most dishonest media moment of the Trump presidency?

Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:30 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:30 am to
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This is the guy who constantly wrings his hands about wanting "legitimate discussion" on here.



Yep.

Then, wants to play the Cathy Newman game
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:30 am to
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Posts this and then whines for 12 pages. fricking amazing


Im just trying to speak in a language you’ll understand
Posted by mofungoo
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:31 am to
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They seriously underestimate the intelligence of the American people

They think everyone is as stupid as their constituents.

MAGA
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:31 am to
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ShortyRob


So explain to me why, if y’all care so much about media honesty, this board pushes right wing media lies constantly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:31 am to
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single murder

adorable

you're missing the point

the coordination matters and is the discussion point, actually. you can post one huge liar at FNC and it's still just one huge liar. hell you could have a guy at FNC and a writer at the Washington Times report the same story. then you have 2 guys

is that the same as a coordinate effort between the DEM party and hundreds of outlets to report a lie?

every show on MSNBC focused on this
every show on CNN focused on this
NYT had articles and multiple people tweeting
Wapo had articles and multiple people tweeting
HUNDREDS OF OUTLETS ran with the talking points and meme

that is not the same thing
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:33 am to
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you're missing the point


No, you are

Y’all give right wing media lies a pass or even parrot them on here in one breath and then in the next preach about media honesty and accountability.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:35 am to
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Y’all give right wing media lies a pass

what? where?

nobody denied the mistruths you posted

people disagreed with the scope involved
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:36 am to
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There that’s 5. Is that good enough?



Your childish attempts compare a handful of examples to the daily onslaught of lies about Trump are not playing well here sir.

You could have easily have said this part

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CNN sucks. The members of the liberal media that lie about Trump and conservatives are doing more harm than good and should be removed for their positions.


Without then attempting to equate a handful of lies told over a ten year span from right wing sources to what we see now from the left wing media and came across as much more genuine and credible.

No one here is under the illusion that Fox News and such don't tell occasional lies. Of course they do. But what we're seeing now is so far beyond occasional lies that is the same as comparing an alligator to a T rex. Sure they are both reptiles, but that's pretty much where the similarities end.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:37 am to
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nobody denied the mistruths you posted


Well

a) that’s not true, Turbeaux did

b) before I posted them their existence was denied

c) somehow the boards biggest media crusaders never seem to post those kinds of links, only when the liberal media is lying is it a problem apparently
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:39 am to
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Im just trying to speak in a language you’ll understand



Language? Everyone here speaks English?

You dumbass
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:39 am to
i can't discuss Fox News b/c i have never watched it in any scale and other than Tucker, i haven't even watched it in years. and i haven't watched Tucker live in months, maybe a year. FNC is a piece of shite. very few people deny it

Tucker is by far the most popular FNC personality on here and he calls out FNC all the time

hell, the entire reason why Tucker's show works so well is he and his producers/researchers have a complete understanding of the nature/proliferation of the talking points on the left. all he has to do is know exactly what they're going to say (Which is transparent), and research "Gotchas" to take them off guard. that is Tucker's show boiled down to a few sentences...and it keeps working. why? because the left still just trots out mouthpieces to go vomit out the talking points of the day
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:39 am to
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Your childish attempts compare a handful of examples


There are thousands of other examples I can post. How many would you like?

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No one here is under the illusion that Fox News and such don't tell occasional lies.


Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:40 am to
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So explain to me why, if y’all care so much about media honesty, this board pushes right wing media lies constantly?


Oh. I see you gave up on being able to show me how conservative media coordinates in any meaningful way the way we've shown for the mainstream media.

That's progress.

"This board" isn't a thing. But, are you asserting that people are posting things they KNOW to be lies or, are you asserting they simply are failing to realize they're lies?

I mean, neither is good..........but one is clearly worse
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:40 am to
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the coordination matters and is the discussion point, actually.
He knows this..........but he's avoided it for 14 pages
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:40 am to
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that’s not true, Turbeaux did


And still do.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:41 am to
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what? where?

nobody denied the mistruths you posted

people disagreed with the scope involved


He knows this

But at his core, he's really basically just like the people who perpetrated the animals lie. He's going to pretend he doesn't know your point and respond to points you aren't even trying to make
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:41 am to
Dude Tucker lies all the fricking time but apparently it’s okay because he calls it editorial
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 11:42 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:43 am to
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ShortyRob


You’ve been backpedaling, moving the goalposts, and throwing personal attacks at me this entire thread and I’m the dishonest one here?
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 11:45 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:44 am to
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Dude Tucker lies all the fricking time


your argument literally just became a meme



and it's irrelevant. i said "this is why his show is popular" and you want to turn editorial opinions into lies to discredit him...for a reason i wasn't even discussing about him.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:45 am to
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Dude Tucker lies all the fricking time but apparently it’s okay because he calls it editorial

You still want to run with the "OK" line rather than recognize that one can be worse than the other.

I get it. You're out of shtick. That's OK
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