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re: WAPO: "The Democrats’ impeachment bombshells aren’t exploding"
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:06 am to texridder
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:06 am to texridder
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Or unless you just choose ignore it -- like people like you will gladly do.
There is nothing incriminating in the transcript, so your point is a non story.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:08 am to Revelator
Seems like the play is to compare the actual chain of events to hindsight 20/20 most ideal/perfect chain of events that the most innocent person in the world would have done, and any deviations are a sign of guilt.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:08 am to texridder
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The DEms have said that the people that listened in were concerned right away and that White House security lawyer Eisenberg (who they talked to about the call) decided to put the transcript on the secure server so no one could see it
It doesn’t matter how concerned they were by what they claim they heard. Again, there is nothing in the transcript that is incriminating. All the rest of this is window dressing.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:50 am to texridder
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That's wrong. The Repubs want to focus on the call itself and claim that no one who heard the call thought there was anything out of the ordinary on it.
The DEms have said that the people that listened in were concerned right away and that White House security lawyer Eisenberg (who they talked to about the call) decided to put the transcript on the secure server so no one could see it.
Try as you may wish there is just no there there, this narrative is never going to catch on outside of the cellar dwellers at DU.
It does not matter what anyone thought about it one bit.
This entire dog and pony show was held for one reason, to bait Trump into testifying and it failed, there will be no perjury trap triggered, surprisingly he did not take the bait.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:16 am to texridder
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You can't make this asinine horseshite up.
Thanks for my first belly chuckle of the day -
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:25 am to bmy
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it sets Sondland up for his 8am testimony tomorrow especially now that Sondland has admitted he told Ukrainian officials that the aid was contingent
Every Democrat gets his Russia moment. This one is yours. Enjoy. Even mentally ill people deserve happiness
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:25 am to texridder
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This is after the White House said for a month that it was no big deal that the transcript was put on the secure server and that Trump did it all the time -- and so did Obama.
Your GI Joe witness today said the same thing. He stated that it happens all the time and it did not strike him as unusual.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:45 am to texridder
Wow. This is stupid drivel.
Both stories can be true. Do you think trump tell people where to put every phone call he has?
We heard that it is common that trump places these phone calls on the secret server. I don't know if we heard him say I told them to put it on the secret server.
We also heard Obama placed lots of calls on the secret server.
We then heard well it makes sense for him to have placed this call on the secret server because there are so many leaks.
So, based upon the explanations above, I don't care about what you said.
Let's go even further. Let's say that trump did say I had them put that call on the secret server. Well trump likely places many calls on the secret server. He probably doesn't remember every one he said to put there.
He thought if it's on the secret server, I probably told them to put it there. Reasonable conclusion.
So the worst you can say about this is trump spoke before he had all the details... Yeah. Obama did that all the time.
Let's say this is your gold mine. He knew they accidently put it on the secret server and he told a lie. Well no one will know why. Is it a significant lie? No. Does anyone really care about this lie? Nope.
Politicians, including trump lie all the time. On the realm of lies I care about, this is insignificant and mean nothing.
You can keep your doctor if you want is a way bigger lie that really pissed of a lot of people.
So likely this whole point you being up is a nothing burger. Even if he lied in the biggest possible way, it's a nothing burger.
And by the way I saw last night a story making the rounds. It's going to be Dems next impeachment attempt if it gains any traction. It's about trump people pressuring the IRS not to audit him...
Both stories can be true. Do you think trump tell people where to put every phone call he has?
We heard that it is common that trump places these phone calls on the secret server. I don't know if we heard him say I told them to put it on the secret server.
We also heard Obama placed lots of calls on the secret server.
We then heard well it makes sense for him to have placed this call on the secret server because there are so many leaks.
So, based upon the explanations above, I don't care about what you said.
Let's go even further. Let's say that trump did say I had them put that call on the secret server. Well trump likely places many calls on the secret server. He probably doesn't remember every one he said to put there.
He thought if it's on the secret server, I probably told them to put it there. Reasonable conclusion.
So the worst you can say about this is trump spoke before he had all the details... Yeah. Obama did that all the time.
Let's say this is your gold mine. He knew they accidently put it on the secret server and he told a lie. Well no one will know why. Is it a significant lie? No. Does anyone really care about this lie? Nope.
Politicians, including trump lie all the time. On the realm of lies I care about, this is insignificant and mean nothing.
You can keep your doctor if you want is a way bigger lie that really pissed of a lot of people.
So likely this whole point you being up is a nothing burger. Even if he lied in the biggest possible way, it's a nothing burger.
And by the way I saw last night a story making the rounds. It's going to be Dems next impeachment attempt if it gains any traction. It's about trump people pressuring the IRS not to audit him...
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:29 am to thetempleowl
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This.
Putting calls on the server was in response to prior leaks. I suspect that not all calls were put in there AND THE RULE IS THAT ONES WITH SENSITIVE INFORMATION SHOULD BE.
Hence, since this one DIDN'T have that, it shouldn't have been but mistakenly was.
I wonder if Vindman was the one that suggested it be put on the server, so when the plan was underway the Dems could claim Trump was hiding it.
This.
Putting calls on the server was in response to prior leaks. I suspect that not all calls were put in there AND THE RULE IS THAT ONES WITH SENSITIVE INFORMATION SHOULD BE.
Hence, since this one DIDN'T have that, it shouldn't have been but mistakenly was.
I wonder if Vindman was the one that suggested it be put on the server, so when the plan was underway the Dems could claim Trump was hiding it.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:47 am to Revelator
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Or unless you just choose ignore it -- like people like you will gladly do.
Imagine having TDS so bad that you want to undo an election because you think Trump was hiding a transcript on a secret server so nobody could read read, despite the fact that the transcript was immediately release so everyone could read it. Sad!
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:50 am to MrLSU
Still waiting on evidence of a quid-pro-quo
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:56 am to Revelator
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How does any of this change what’s in the transcript?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:58 am to Antonio Moss
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Still waiting on evidence of any wrongdoing at all
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:59 am to texridder
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You forgot to respond to my post. Here have another try. Just a quick comment will do.
Morrison testified that the transcript was put on the secure server by mistake. This is after the White House said for a month that it was no big deal that the transcript was put on the secure server and that Trump did it all the time -- and so did Obama.
Why did they feel the need to change their story?
So they went with the status quo (what Obama did), realized what an issue it was, and then correctly labeled it "administrative error." Soooooooooooo...
Obama = administrative error - what is the issue again?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:01 am to Roaad
The whole charade was a fool’s errand. We have the phone call. Every witness testifies that in their opinion the call was “improper.” But none of that matters because the President sets the nation’s foreign policy and if an underling in an alphabet agency disagrees with the policy and doesn’t want to carry it out, they should resign.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:15 am to TigerRanter
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But none of that matters because the President sets the nation’s foreign policy
Then what credible reason is there to request an investigation specifically into Joe Biden for having Shokin fired?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:16 am to bmy
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Then what credible reason is there to request an investigation specifically into Joe Biden for having Shokin fired?
because he was using his influence to cover for his son
but he did not do that anyway
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:18 am to MrLSU
Why did these imbeciles expect any "bombshells" after seeing multiple garbage accusations fall flat over the last three years?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:25 am to texridder
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The DEms have said that the people that listened in were concerned right away and that White House security lawyer Eisenberg (who they talked to about the call) decided to put the transcript on the secure server so no one could see it.
Let me explain to you how things work in the classified world. Things get overclassified or put on classified networks when there's no reason to ALL THE frickING TIME.
FFS I have lunch plans that are stamped SECRET//NOFORN because it was easier to coordinate on SIPR than NIPR because no one payed attention to NIPR.
You have zero understanding of what you're talking about. But then again you never do.
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