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WALL-E advocates the Red Pill
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:16 pm
I think it's more appropriate on this board than the M/TV due to my subject. In this fantastic movie, everytime a person is awakened from their bullshite virtual reality and called to a higher meaning in life, they go from literally blue to red. They are literally being red pilled in this movie. Here's a great scene that shows it: LINK
It really is one of the great movies. I know some people on the Far Right hate it for its "global warming" message (despite the fact it only says not to trash the planet and was required as a backdrop to make the story work), it really is a positive message on what humanity is ultimately meant to achieve. The movie at the end is "hey, get off your fat asses and getting bullshite subsidies and make something of yourself. The human condition is going above and beyond of simply what is expected of you. This is what will make you a better person."
It's a masterpiece in cinema as far as I'm concerned, but in a few weeks we're going to get "The Emoji Movie" that glorifies the enslavement that WALL-E openly says is the worst fricking thing that could happen to humanity.
As the main theme of the movie is stated by the Captain "I don't want to survive, I want to live!"
It really is one of the great movies. I know some people on the Far Right hate it for its "global warming" message (despite the fact it only says not to trash the planet and was required as a backdrop to make the story work), it really is a positive message on what humanity is ultimately meant to achieve. The movie at the end is "hey, get off your fat asses and getting bullshite subsidies and make something of yourself. The human condition is going above and beyond of simply what is expected of you. This is what will make you a better person."
It's a masterpiece in cinema as far as I'm concerned, but in a few weeks we're going to get "The Emoji Movie" that glorifies the enslavement that WALL-E openly says is the worst fricking thing that could happen to humanity.
As the main theme of the movie is stated by the Captain "I don't want to survive, I want to live!"
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 10:19 pm
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:20 pm to OMLandshark
WALL-E proved that the only thing that will be left are robots, fat-fricks, and one cockroach.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:24 pm to navy
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WALL-E proved that the only thing that will be left are robots, fat-fricks, and one cockroach.
But they better themselves regardless. It says that humanity is corruptable, but we are ultimately good, well meaning, and fully capable of redemption and innovation. That's the message I took from it at least.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:26 pm to OMLandshark
I liked Up and Incredibles more.
But Wall-E was good.
But Wall-E was good.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:30 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:31 pm to navy
I love both of those as well.
And good news "The Incredibles 2" is coming out next year!
And good news "The Incredibles 2" is coming out next year!
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:32 pm to OMLandshark
These are the threads you post once your football program dies.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:55 pm to OMLandshark
I do get your point.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:02 pm to OMLandshark
Wall-E is one of my favorite movies of all time. And I was dumbfounded when some publications were trying to call it left-wing propaganda because it wasn't based on some controversial environmental issue. Unless "don't trash the earth" is a controversial left-wing position. 
And this is more for the M/TV board, but they were able to put more believable emotion and feelings in a robot than most films can put in put in actual human characters--and more than all 3 Star Wars prequels combined.
And this is more for the M/TV board, but they were able to put more believable emotion and feelings in a robot than most films can put in put in actual human characters--and more than all 3 Star Wars prequels combined.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:04 pm to OMLandshark
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WALL-E
One of the best if not the best silent movie I'ever ever seen.
It was only marketed as a kids movie and Pixar wasn't being asked or expected to make an oscar worthy movie and they still did it anyway. It was just so smart, competent and revolutionary for telling a story without a single word being spoken at all.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:12 pm to OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:19 pm to Sentrius
It should have not only been nominated for Best Picture, it should have won it. By the day WALL-E becomes more relevant. WALL-E was in production for 13 years. Disney wouldn't let them make it due to the two main characters not speaking, but they knew it was their magnum opus.
It was a prerequisite to getting back with Disney to allow them to release this movie they had been working on behind the scenes for years. They gave in and what a movie. It will be remembered 50+ years from now to be sure. Slumdog Millionaire, no way in hell will anyone but the biggest film snobs be watching it. WALL-E is truly timeless.
It was a prerequisite to getting back with Disney to allow them to release this movie they had been working on behind the scenes for years. They gave in and what a movie. It will be remembered 50+ years from now to be sure. Slumdog Millionaire, no way in hell will anyone but the biggest film snobs be watching it. WALL-E is truly timeless.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:19 pm to buckeye_vol
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they were able to put more believable emotion and feelings in a robot than most films can put in put in actual human characters--and more than all 3 Star Wars prequels combined.
Danielle Feinberg's TED talk on her career and what they did with lighting to give WALL-E emotion is pretty awesome. And it's one of the few TED talks that isn't biased. Very much enjoyed it.
ETA: She talks about his eyes starting at the 6:30 mark. LINK
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:22 pm to meeple
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Wait, what's this I hear about same-day drone deliveries from the same folks that bought out a B&M grocery chain? Maybe that's kind of a stretch... at the moment, at least.
I don't think it is. I think it's already here. I'm sure there's some online grocery store that ships them to your door the very next day. As soon as we have an affordable robot to do it, then we're definitely here. I think WALL-E is both sadly and fortunately very correct on the trajectory of humanity.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:23 pm to OMLandshark
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WALL-E was in production for 13 years. Disney wouldn't let them make it due to the two main characters not speaking, but they knew it was their magna opus.
It was a prerequisite to getting back with Disney to allow them to release this movie they had been working on behind the scenes for years. They gave in and what a movie.
That must have been some very interesting and heated boardroom discussions and quite the negotiations to see.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:25 pm to OMLandshark
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It should have not only been nominated for Best Picture, it should have won it. By the day WALL-E becomes more relevant. WALL-E was in production for 13 years. Disney wouldn't let them make it due to the two main characters not speaking, but they knew it was their magna opus.
It was a prerequisite to getting back with Disney to allow them to release this movie they had been working on behind the scenes for years. They gave in and what a movie. It will be remembered 50+ years from now to be sure. It's truly timeless.
Would love to read about this. Was it in a book or article?
ETA: Creativity, Inc. is a great read.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:28 pm to Sentrius
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That must have been some very interesting and heated boardroom discussions and quite the negotiations to see.
The bigger one was Disney gave Pixar from the start a 5 story deal, and they refused to give Pixar credit for Toy Story 2 since it was a sequel and they claimed that a sequel doesn't count as a new story. They had to make an extra movie for them outside of the contract.
They demanded that Eisner be gone, that they could make WALL-E for them to come back under the Disney banner, and that John Lasseter (their own) take control of Disney's animation department. WALL-E was their second film planned after Toy Story, but Eisner forbid it.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:39 pm to OMLandshark
Now maybe the summer of 2008 is so memorable because it was the summer between undergrad and grad school, and I probably saw more films in the theater than any other time.
HOWEVER, it feels like the quality of those summer movies, usually reserved for entertaining but mindless blockbusters, was exceptionally high.
Wall-E, The Dark Knight, Tropic Thunder, and Iron Man stand out, but I also enjoyed Kung-Fu Panda, Step Brothers (gets better with each watch), Get Smart, and Pineapple Express. It was a good summer for films, with some even among the greats in their respective genres.
HOWEVER, it feels like the quality of those summer movies, usually reserved for entertaining but mindless blockbusters, was exceptionally high.
Wall-E, The Dark Knight, Tropic Thunder, and Iron Man stand out, but I also enjoyed Kung-Fu Panda, Step Brothers (gets better with each watch), Get Smart, and Pineapple Express. It was a good summer for films, with some even among the greats in their respective genres.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:47 pm to buckeye_vol
The summer of 2008 were the best 4 months of my life. Really bar none. I look back at that summer with as much fondness as humanly possible. All the narcs left town, shite tons of good music fests, all the girls I liked and boned remained around, a great job, and tons of good movies.
That said, WALL-E still stands out. First time I saw it I took a girl on a date and brought her back to my place. It will be remembered 50 years from now. Me tripping my face off for 8 straight hours crying for joy on a hill in Michigan unfortunately won't be, even though that is my second most fond memory to this day.
To the Summer of 2008, the best time ever.
That said, WALL-E still stands out. First time I saw it I took a girl on a date and brought her back to my place. It will be remembered 50 years from now. Me tripping my face off for 8 straight hours crying for joy on a hill in Michigan unfortunately won't be, even though that is my second most fond memory to this day.
To the Summer of 2008, the best time ever.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:08 am to OMLandshark
I get emotional just thinking about WALL-E. It was a wonderful period of my life and it always brings out the nostalgia. I truly believe it is one of the greatest films of all time. And yes it is better than Toy Story.
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