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Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Just a reminder of the text of the Constitution:
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Numbers
Not
Votes
And, even if it somehow a state can direct how electors vote despite (and contrary to) the actual tally of the vote in the state, it is in conflict with the compacts clause and once you dip a fricking toe into original intent this bullshite fails.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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your vote would be necessary for the national vote
The counting of the national vote would be the issue.
I really thought this general popular vote stupidity would have been killed by 2024’s result.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That doesn't mean you're disenfranchised.
Holy shite
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:10 pm to coldbeerfan
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They love the fact that only six or seven of the highest populated leftist counties control the elections in their blue states. Be damn the areas that vote conservative.
So your argument to stop disenfranchisement is to avoid a system that simply counts all the votes and use one that doesn't?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Exactly. AN individual state has the right to chose how they assign the electoral college delegates. I believe if the state legislature decided it wanted to pick the electors, they could. Clearly if she is signing a bill, this came from the legislature, as the legislature "may direct". There is not a requirement for a "compact" for this to fly.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:11 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Holy shite
If your vote counts the same as everyone else's, then you're not disenfranchised.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't personally agree with these policies.
... but you'll fight to the death to allow them enacted and gaslight the populace that they aren't, in fact, disenfranchised.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So your argument to stop disenfranchisement is to avoid a system that simply counts all the votes and use one that doesn't?
Don’t tease them.
You don’t believe in national popular election of POTUS either…
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:12 pm to NorCali
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There is not a requirement for a "compact" for this to fly.
The "Compact" in this system isn't really a compact among the states. It's more a conditional requirement for the electoral system to be in place. I doubt that would fall within the meaning of compact referenced elsewhere in the Constitution.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Holy shite
If your vote counts the same as everyone else's, then you're not disenfranchised
Except, under this plan, it doesn't.
In fact, it doesn't count at all.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:12 pm to SallysHuman
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but you'll fight to the death to allow them enacted
I defend the Constitution, yes.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:13 pm to udtiger
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Except, under this plan, it doesn't.
How?
Every national vote would be literally equal.
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In fact, it doesn't count at all.
How would your vote not be tallied in the national vote count?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:14 pm to SallysHuman
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but you'll fight to the death to allow them enacted and gaslight the populace that they aren't, in fact, disenfranchised.
Isn’t that what you’d want your paid advocate to do?
SFP isn’t wrong here, what he’s saying is real and it’s (in my opinion) a loophole in our system.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:15 pm to Indefatigable
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Isn’t that what you’d want your paid advocate to do?
Gaslight me?
No.
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SFP isn’t wrong here, what he’s saying is real and it’s (in my opinion) a loophole in our system.
There are other legal eagles that disagree that the compact in constitutional.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:17 pm to SallysHuman
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Gaslight me?
Pointing out bad arguments/rhetoric =/= gas lighting
*ETA: technically, it's the opposite
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:18 pm to L.A.
Soooo, in 2024, Virginia’s electoral votes would have gone to Trump.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Pointing out bad arguments/rhetoric =/= gas lighting *ETA: technically, it's the opposite
Telling voters in Virginia that their votes don't count, or maybe they do, depending on 49 other states and DC vote tallies... but they aren't disenfranchised is absolutely gaslighting.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:21 pm to L.A.
CIA doing work
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If your vote counts the same as everyone else's, then you're not disenfranchised.
It doesn’t you piece of shite.
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HB965 says that all of Virginia’s Electoral College votes will go to the winner of the national popular vote, no matter who wins the popular vote in our Commonwealth.
What’s hard to understand here? What aren’t you quite grasping? If candidate A wins the popular vote in your state but your state enacted some bullshite legislation that says regardless of how your state voted, all electoral votes will be thrown to whomever wins the popular vote nationally, whether it’s candidate A or B, how the frick is that not gross disenfranchisement of voters?
I’d love to see your record in a courtroom since you like to play the constitutional savant attorney on this site.
I’m not sure what the hell type of name this sham falls under but it damn sure ain’t republicanism.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 9:25 pm
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