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re: Virginia Governor Abigail signs bill into law giving all electoral college votes to winner
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:25 pm to bhtigerfan
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:25 pm to bhtigerfan
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Soooo, in 2024, Virginia’s electoral votes would have gone to Trump.
If the vote went down the same way? Yes
But given the reason why Kamala didn't get close to Biden in 2020 was a loss of DEM voters in DEM states, I imagine they'd have gotten millions more votes in 2024 under a different system.
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:26 pm to SallysHuman
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Telling voters in Virginia that their votes don't count, or maybe they do, depending on 49 other states and DC vote tallies... but they aren't disenfranchised is absolutely gaslighting.
They're votes count under both scenarios, though.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They're votes count under both scenarios, though.
Please, explain it. How?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:27 pm to L.A.
won't last
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
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It doesn’t you piece of shite.
How does it not?
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What’s hard to understand here? What aren’t you quite grasping?
I'm not having any issues here.
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If candidate A wins the popular vote in your state but your state enacted some bullshite legislation that says regardless of how your state voted, all electoral votes will be thrown to whomever wins the popular vote nationally,
And your vote counts in that national popular vote, so it's not disenfranchised.
That's the flaw in your argument. You're only assigning the state-based value to the vote and pretending it has no value in the national vote, when it clearly does.
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how the frick is that not gross disenfranchisement of voters?
It would only be disenfranchisement if your vote somehow wasn't tallied in the national vote.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They're votes count under both scenarios, though.
Not the way the constitution laid out.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Please, explain it. How?
The vote counts in the national tally, too.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:29 pm to SallysHuman
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Not the way the constitution laid out.
The Constitution permits states to decide how to assign the EC
That has nothing to do with the votes counting in both systems, mind you.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And your vote counts in that national popular vote, so it's not disenfranchised.
There IS NO NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE in the constitution... that wasn't an oversight but a deliberate decision.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:29 pm to L.A.
This will motivate Republicans in deep blue states to get out and vote for president.
This is going to backfire spectacularly on those retards.
This is going to backfire spectacularly on those retards.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:30 pm to L.A.
Democracy is when your vote gets automatically switched to how CA and NY voted.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:30 pm to SallysHuman
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There IS NO NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE in the constitution
And?
The Constitution permits states to decide the EC.
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that wasn't an oversight but a deliberate decision.
There is no prohibition on states relying on the national vote to determine their EC representatives.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The Constitution permits states to decide how to assign the EC
Does it allow for states to collude in disenfranchising and diluting the votes of each state?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is no prohibition on states relying on the national vote to determine their EC representatives.
Why are they waiting for a threshold to "compact" this rather than each state that desires this outcome just go ahead and do it?
What's special about waiting to compact?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:32 pm to SallysHuman
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Does it allow for states to collude in disenfranchising and diluting the votes of each state?
The votes wouldn't be disenfranchised under this system
HOWEVER, states are not required to even have an election/vote to determine their EC representatives. The state could let the Governor appoint them all or have the Legislature vote instead, or flip a coin, for that matter.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's the flaw in your argument. You're only assigning the state-based value to the vote and pretending it has no value in the national vote, when it clearly does.
Hey dickhead, the one truly “national” vote we have is the presidency. Which isn’t determined by the popular vote. It’s determined by the electoral college. Therefore giving your state’s electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote nationally flies in the face of the very system we have set up here. If your state votes for the candidate who didn’t win the popular vote then guess what? Your vote is disenfranchised under this system.
Which you knew that of course. But between all the bullshite you spew I’m sure you got your wires crossed.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:33 pm to SallysHuman
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Why are they waiting for a threshold to "compact" this rather than each state that desires this outcome just go ahead and do it?
What's special about waiting to compact?
Again, I don't support this system. I'm not going to opine about mind reading of people voting for a system I don't support.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:33 pm to MetArl15
Uhm, you retarded or something?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not going to opine about mind reading of people voting for a system I don't support.
Convenient.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:34 pm to jizzle6609
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I’m guessing this is legal?
Article II, Section 1 only defines the number of electors a state receives and that they state can appoint them.
Since that appointment process was not enumerated, how it is done is left to the state.
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