re: Video of cop shooting a dude who is in his car.....

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I showed my 16 year old son, he immediately said "you can't just shoot a person like that, that's wrong"

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This is a major problem in our schools, and with the entertainment industry. They have convinced young Americans that they "should" be free to do as they wish, without worry of consequence. They have also managed to turn the court of public opinion against Police Officers. Now they are looked at as oppressors of freedom and silencers of free speech, not as selfless men and women who put the safety and lives of their community before their own. Its a very bad situation.

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but his intuition is spot on in that that this is far from clear cut. Thus the big hullabaloo about it and officer suspension.

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I'm not sure I follow. There shouldn't be ANY "hullabaloo" about the shooting. This is in no way an unjustified shooting. Cop asks for id, he runs. Cops chase him, he endangers the public, cops surround him, he tries to run them over. It escalated that fast because of HIS choices. Yes he's dead. Could it have been avoided? Hell yes. But if it didn't end right there, when would it? After he crashed into a loaded school bus, or plowed into a gas station? He got shot because,he didn't respect the law.

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I'll say again, your son is right.

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Ah, ok... 1st we're not talking about my son. I was responding to another post.

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And again, this is only my opinion. My opinion just so happens to be correct.

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Well that's yet to be determined, isn't it?

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I feel confident that had it been your son driving that vehicle you'd probably take issue with it being the clear cut case you say it is...as opposed to what Im telling you it is.

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His behavior was learned at home. And don't give me any crap about his environment, or checking my white privilege. If parents don't do their job and teach kids about stupid decisions, consequences and why, even if they didn't do anything wrong, you should still be respectful and do what the officer tells you to do, bad stuff can result. The last decade has given us teenagers who fight in the classrooms while everyone records it and the teachers either can't or won't do anything to prevent or stop it. Livestreaming their lawlessness, and their disregard for authority, all for the world to see. The bottom line is this: If you're going to play stupid games, you're going to win stupid prizes.

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By alarming rate, I mean way too damn many. I don’t care if it’s more or less than the last 40 years.

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So you don't know what an alarming rate is or a fact...

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The fact that they are being killed at such alarming rates only shows that they are probably being too considerate.

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You present bogus info as factual. Say for maybe 3-5 years ago, it has literally never been safer to be a cop in our country. Throwing up some emotionally driven lies doesn't change this an iota.

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So you don't know what an alarming rate is or a fact...

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I know that as of April 17, 2019 there had been 15 officers shot and killed this year. That's one a week. Tell me, would you be alarmed if one member of your family had been shot and killed per week, for the last 15 weeks?

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You present bogus info as factual. Say for maybe 3-5 years ago, it has literally never been safer to be a cop in our country. Throwing up some emotionally driven lies doesn't change this an iota.

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I didn't present any info whatsoever. I presented my opinion. If you don't find 15 dead officers in 15 weeks alarming, feel free to join the force.

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Respect for ALL authority is out of hand; the stakes are just higher for LEOs than most others.

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I'm 57

I have had several run-ins with Police over the years.

I have found one salient truth. Eventually you have to comply. Doing otherwise will be bad for you.

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I feel confident that had it been your son driving that vehicle you'd probably take issue with it being the clear cut case you say it is...as opposed to what Im telling you it is.

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And I feel confident that had it been you, or your son standing in front of the vehicle, you would support defending your life with deadly force.

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I have found one salient truth. Eventually you have to comply. Doing otherwise will be bad for you.

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I'm 49. Hank Williams Jr. taught me this in 1984. I was 14.

She called the cops to take me in.
I said, "You're never gonna do it, friend."
They just smiled and said, "Oh yes we will!"

Now a stick to the head,
and kicks to the shin,
And several bites by Rin-Tin-Tin,
and I couldn't wait
to get into that jail.

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I'm 49. Hank Williams Jr. taught me this in 1984. I was 14. She called the cops to take me in. I said, "You're never gonna do it, friend." They just smiled and said, "Oh yes we will!" Now a stick to the head, and kicks to the shin, And several bites by Rin-Tin-Tin, and I couldn't wait to get into that jail

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There is a newer point made by a paraphrased Ron White.

I didn't know how many of them it would take to put me in jail, but I knew how many they were going to use!

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You're like a welder trying to talk about things that require a doctoral degree to understand. These are fine points of law....which is what Ive been arguing about...not emotion. Emotion has no place in the determination of whether things were done correctly here. Go somewhere else and talk about fine pounts of whatever it is you do so maybe you have a shot at being right.

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And you're like a lawyer prick who thinks that common sense and the right to defend your life is subject to what some judge or lawyer has dreamed up, having never been put in the situation of having to defend themselves or their family themselves.

Was the cop in front of the car? Yes.

Did the car accelerate toward the police officer? Yes.

I rest my case, your honor.

The overwhelming majority of the people who actually make this country work, wouldn't let you get away with your lawyer bullshite, counselor.

You can bring my brother from the fatherland, and sit beside him ala the Godfather, and I'm not voting to convict that cop of a fricking thing.

You can declare yourself correct until you are blue in the face. This "welder" is going to vote not guilty, and then hope like hell you or your family is the next victim of depraved frickheads like this criminal, so maybe one day, you'll get it.