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re: Victor Davis Hanson explains Trump’s tariffs like no one else can.

Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53136 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:19 pm to
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Why do you consistently feel the need look down on others? Did your mother not give you enough love as a child?


He is clearly one of the most insecure people here. Between this and his constant comments about how manly he is. He is clearly insecure in his intellectual acuity and his sexuality.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17984 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:20 pm to
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before the armchair economists showed up to pretend they know more about economics than VDH


He has a pHD in classics, not economics



Lmao! You have a degree in chasing ambulances, but you constantly present yourself as an expert in many different topics!
Your grandiosity shows itself in your attempt to minimize Hanson's opinions on political and economics.
I'm certain you will pretend to not understand my point, but you do....
Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2336 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:23 pm to
But, SLOWflowpro is an expert. God you’re insufferable.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:26 pm to
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It took less than two minutes before the armchair economists showed up to pretend they know more about economics than VDH

I would not hang my hat on that one. SFP is dead right and VDH is dead wrong. There are numerous examples of countries we are now tariffing far higher than they are tariffing us. We put tariffs against Israel, and they had reduced theirs to zero.

For some reason, instead of reciprocal tariffs, Trump’s team divided our exports to. Country into the difference between our imports and exports from/to that country, and that calculation, multiplied by 100, became the percentage of our tariffs on their goods.

Trump has a strategy, I’m sure, but it simply is not as VDH says it is.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1006 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:28 pm to
RogerTheShrubber, a resident TD contrarian, is also an expert on economics.
Irony Roger, irony.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:42 pm to
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34 seconds in and he says

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whatever a particular country tariffs us, we reciprocate and just mirror image them
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And?

And it’s not true.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:47 pm to
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His arguement is sound.

You cant refute anything hes saying

His argument is sound, but indeed, SFP successfully refuted something VDH said.

VDH made a mistake saying that we are just mirroring other countries tariffs. That’s not what happened. Trump took the position that if trade were fair all trade between countries would be balanced. Therefore, any trade deficit is the result of unfair practices. I doubt Trump actually believes that, but he’s saying it to justify putting higher tariffs on countries than they have on us. My guess is that he’s doing it to anchor negotiations and to temporarily raise some revenue.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:50 pm to
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Our reciprocal action was not related to their rate of tariffs.

That’s not true either. They certainly are related, because the equation that determines our % tariffs is:

100*(E-I)/E where I is our imports from that country and E is our exports to that country.

And their tariffs against us limit E in that equation.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25231 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Therefore, any trade deficit is the result of unfair practices. I doubt Trump actually believes that,


I hope not, because that would mean he’s a moron.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:54 pm to
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It might be to you but your'e a retarded simp


On his best day ever, maybe.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:55 pm to
He's not a moron, but he's speaking to his sycophants when doing these pressers. And they are morons for the most part.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:57 pm to
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If someone without an economics degree can credibly comment (like you are allegedly doing) on economic issues, are you implying that Victor Davis Hanson (VDH) can’t do the same

The reality is the mirror image of what you wrote. SFP was mocked for daring to think he could match wits on economics with VDH. SFP’s position was that VDH has no particular economics credentials to justify that. SFP is right on this, and VDH did not even pretend to a deep knowledge of economics, instead his argument - a sound one imo - was that the countries who had high tariffs on us seem to have done well and that seems to refute the idea that tariffs are terrible.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 8:02 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33144 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:09 pm to
Woah. You just caused us another endless round of SFP ill-advised pomposity with that boot licking bullshite. In case you haven’t noticed, SFP’s is but one of many OPINIONS on the matter, regardless of how voluminous it may be. It may seem awesome to you, but I think differently. VDH has his own opinion too, whether you agree, disagree or neither here nor there on it. Jesus didn’t come down through parting clouds to tap Slow as the exclusively correct take on the matter. Neither did that happen for VDH. Nor anyone else. That’s sorta the essence of opinion and debate.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19015 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:02 am to
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Why does a doctorate in classics makes him an authority on economics?


Who are the authorities on economics?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
15965 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:30 am to
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That doesn't make him any authority on economics,

You make stupid fricking posts on a stupid fricking message board.
You’re not an authority on anything to be commenting on anything anyone else says of any seriousness or import.

Not only are you not an authority on economics or anything else you’re so dumb that you put it on display constantly.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14596 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:42 am to
He's got a PHD in smart, something you lack, you're such a frickin fool!
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3562 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:40 am to
Tariffs didn’t cause the Great Depression on their own—they were just the final misstep in a long chain of policy failures. The real groundwork was laid by a decade of reckless monetary expansion, followed by a sudden tightening. Then Smoot-Hawley came along and predictably strangled global trade. And the New Deal? It wasn’t a solution—it was an economic straightjacket that prolonged the pain through wage and price controls, labor restrictions, and top-down planning that stifled recovery.

The Depression of 1920–1921 almost never gets mentioned, probably because it doesn’t fit the preferred narrative. It was severe—but short. Harding cut spending, reduced the national debt, and let the market self-correct. No stimulus, no bailouts. The result? A fast and robust recovery. He’s ranked near the bottom by historians, but anyone who understands markets knows better.

And now? We’re quite literally retracing the steps of pre-Depression America like it’s a blueprint: easy money, asset bubbles, rising tariffs, and increasingly populist politics. Don’t be shocked if after Trump we get a 2028 version of FDR—only younger, far dumber (which may be a blessing or a curse), and much angrier and more vindictive.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87092 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:48 am to
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And it’s not true.


If we are mirroring others tariffs then how is he wrong?
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30864 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:53 am to
Complaining that VDH doesn’t have the appropriate academic credentials, then proceed to use your Community College Law degree to explain economics to us.

Oh the irony.
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