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Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:31 pm to SDVTiger
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What about Mu, Omega, Epislon etc etc
Epsilon was the California variant. Delta has pretty much obliterated it.
Mu hasn't been spreading in the US. At least not yet.
Omega doesn't exist.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:32 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Meanwhile, we know the vaccines absolutely mitigate acuity, and yet we're determined to ignore that obvious fact.
solely, depends on who you’re talking to.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:32 pm to omegaman66
Covid has been more fatal to people than the vaccines have, by powers of 100.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:32 pm to Klark Kent
quote:Not really. Acuity is decreased across the board.
solely, depends on who you’re talking to.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
no, i’m referring to who you saying is ignoring that.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:34 pm to Tiguar
quote:Right. This is like objecting to that going outside and getting fresh air is beneficial because sometimes people are stung by bees or hit by lightning.
Covid has been more fatal to people than the vaccines have, by powers of 100.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:34 pm to Klark Kent
quote:I'm referring to the majority of this board that is anit-vax.
no, i’m referring to who you saying is ignoring that.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:37 pm to Tiguar
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Vaccines have been a huge benefit to certain vaccinated people and not very beneficial to others.
I don't think people dispute this. If you're 80+ years old, who cares about the long term effects?
If you are 20 something, why would you get it?
I think the big sticking point is that the vaccinated are trying to force the unvaccinated and their children to get the vaccine.
Every lie that has been told has been to make the unvaccinated take the jab. The "crisis of the unvaccinated". "Unvaccinated are making everyone sick". "Unvaccinated are the reason we have variants". "If we all get the vaccine, this will end PDQ." "Only the vaccine works. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroqine don't work and are dangerous. Ivermectin is for horses only."
Why can't they tell the truth?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:38 pm to Jax-Tiger
You aren’t wrong. I really wish they just FDA approved it for certain ages and risk factors. It would have done so much good for trust.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm referring to the majority of this board that is anit-vax.
which isn’t a reflection of society’s overall view on the vaccine, so other than throwing a shite fit about the people on this board’s right to not get a vaccine i fail to see your point.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Meanwhile, we know the vaccines absolutely mitigate acuity, and yet we're determined to ignore that obvious fact.
We also know the vaccines do nothing to prevent infection or spreading the virus, and potentially make people more susceptible to infection. And yet you’re determined to ignore that obvious fact.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:54 pm to Open Your Eyes
Zzzz alright I’m out
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:55 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
Epsilon was the California variant. Delta has pretty much obliterated it.
Mu hasn't been spreading in the US. At least not yet.
Omega doesn't exist.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:56 pm to Tiguar
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Covid has been more fatal to people than the vaccines have, by powers of 100.
I did not say otherwise.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:first I have to ask you what stat you've seen that would make you think a 25 year old should take any medication to prevent the Coronavirus. They represent less than one-half of 1% of all of the coronavirus deaths thus far. And that is despite the fact that their age group in population is dramatically larger then the over-65 group with most of the deaths.
Really? What's the downside? The stats I've seen still clearly make it worthwhile
They have damn near a statistically zero chance of getting the coronavirus and dying. Even if the vaccine improve their chances by 80% that 80% of next to nothing.
There is literally nothing else you can think of in your life with the same risk profile that would keep you up at night for more than half a minute.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Really? What's the downside? The stats I've seen still clearly make it worthwhile.
Seriously help me out here. I just looked at cases by age and deaths by age. Keeping in mind that cases only includes presented cases and does not include people who got it but never got tested. Just using the official stats you have a 99.96% chance of survival if you get the coronavirus at age 25. And considering virtually all of the people who died in that age bracket have additional problems if you happen to be healthy and 25 the number is even lower.
And again that's the risk of dying if you get the virus. Since you aren't a 100% risk to get the virus the actual risk of you dying from the coronavirus if you are a healthy 25 year old is a percentage that has at least two or three zeros after the decimal point before you get to an integer.
What rational person would go out of their way the apples to avoid the Coronavirus with such statistics much less take a medication that has not been out very long and has possible unknown risks? Seriously who would do that
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:12 pm to ShortyRob
You have to love somebody down voting accurate statistics.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:30 pm to Tiguar
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It’s still lower than covid itself BUT you’re guaranteeing exposure to the risk rather than rolling the dice in exposure to the risk.
Check
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Not really worth it if multiple boosters are going to be necessary.
...and check
Glad to see we may not be jousting on this issue very much. We're generally in agreement on other issues.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:51 pm to Tiguar
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You aren’t wrong. I really wish they just FDA approved it for certain ages and risk factors. It would have done so much good for trust.
Maybe you’d agree the politicization of a pandemic is the real battle we’re fighting…..that and the complete distrust of our deceitful government.
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