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re: US is pretty much the only first world country without paid sick leave
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:02 pm to Hawkeye95
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:02 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:What's even more retarded is for someone to work there knowing there is no sick leave. Go work somewhere else.
Its fricking retarded to not allow employees sick time.
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:04 pm to Hawkeye95
Im sure that company suffered by having smart companies poach good employees by offering them better benefits. The liberals like to manipulate facts, we don't need laws mandating sick leave when most companies offer it anyways. The ones that don't put themselves at a disadvantage to keeping talent in their company. If the unskilled labor wants sick leave I suggest making themselves harder to replace.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:06 pm to Hawkeye95
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my wife worked for an organization for a few years that didn't offer paid sick leave.
Your wife should've found a better place to work.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:06 pm to LSURussian
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What's even more retarded is for someone to work there knowing there is no sick leave. Go work somewhere else.
she didn't even ask in the interview process - what professional organization doesn't offer sick time? She just assumed that it was the case. She didn't even find out until she called in sick, and they told her she had to take a vacation day.
She quit the job, like any rational person would but did end up working there for about a year/18 mos
But shame on management for doing this.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Also the only one w/o paid maternity leave and the one with by far the shortest vacation days.
Corporatism at its finest, and it's only getting worse as the oligarchy continues to chip away at the few benefits the American worker actually does have. Shameful.
But you know what we do have? Jobs
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The euro area seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate was 11.5 % in August 2014, stable compared with July 2014 but down from 12.0 % in August 2013.
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Do you really not realize that actions have consequences?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:07 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Im sure that company suffered by having smart companies poach good employees by offering them better benefits. The liberals like to manipulate facts, we don't need laws mandating sick leave when most companies offer it anyways. The ones that don't put themselves at a disadvantage to keeping talent in their company. If the unskilled labor wants sick leave I suggest making themselves harder to replace.
it was a non-profit, which is even more bizarre.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:You want all those things, start your own company and give those to all your workers. when it's coming out of your revenue, I bet you'll be whistling a different tune.
Also the only one w/o paid maternity leave and the one with by far the shortest vacation days.
Corporatism at its finest, and it's only getting worse as the oligarchy continues to chip away at the few benefits the American worker actually does have. Shameful.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:08 pm to Hawkeye95
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she didn't even ask in the interview process
Well, I'm sorry to tell you this...but that's on HER.
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what professional organization doesn't offer sick time?
Apparently that one.
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She just assumed
Not even gonna say it...
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:08 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Well there you go....
She quit the job, like any rational person would
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:09 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:was this her first interview?
she didn't even ask in the interview process - what professional organization doesn't offer sick time? She just assumed that it was the case. She didn't even find out until she called in sick, and they told her she had to take a vacation day.
at least she was smart enough to leave after that. I prefer letting companies dig their own grave. If another company moves into that area doing the same thing as this one but offers benefits they could bury them.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:13 pm to Hawkeye95
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it was a non-profit, which is even more bizarre.
No it's actually pretty logical. Profitable companies can offer their employees more advantages.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:16 pm to benhamin5555
I have lots of paid sick time and vacation.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:18 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Well, I'm sorry to tell you this...but that's on HER.
She has a bit of job hopping syndrome, probably 11 jobs in the past 17 years. Between that and my 4 professional employers, not once have we had a professional job that didn't offer sick time.
Even one hourly gig she had offered it. While she should have asked, I think most people reasonably assume a professional organization offers sick time. They went over benefits with her, but failed to mentioned the sick time issue in that overview.
the organization also had a rule that you were not allowed to wear capris to work. Again, she didn't ask about that, and was chastised for wearing capris to work. They also banned dyed hair.
It was all very bizarre, especially since it was a left leaning non profit.
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was this her first interview?
at least she was smart enough to leave after that. I prefer letting companies dig their own grave. If another company moves into that area doing the same thing as this one but offers benefits they could bury them.
no, but I certainly wouldnt ask about sick time in the interview process - so what are your rules around sick time? Yeah, that is going to look bad.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:18 pm to benhamin5555
Paid sick leave here.
Hell, even the hourly workers here have paid sick leave
Hell, even the hourly workers here have paid sick leave
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:18 pm to benhamin5555
Tell you what hoss start your own company or buy the one you work for and give your employees whatever you want but until then have warm glass of STFU.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:18 pm to benhamin5555
I have paid sick leave.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:19 pm to Robin Masters
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No it's actually pretty logical. Profitable companies can offer their employees more advantages.
actually in my experience non profits usually offer pretty nice perks b.c they can't compete on salary.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:20 pm to benhamin5555
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US is pretty much the only first world country without paid sick leave
Yep, and we work the most...This country blows in helping it's hard-working citizens but for some reason the populace defends it as some moral issue.
It's the plantation mentality...corporate America works you to death - doesn't give you squat in health-care...private health care is just out to make a profit and is the old line...deny, deny, deny...like any insurance company.
And yet - everybody sides up with the big corp America (of which they are getting no slice of the pie) and says...thank you master for keeping socialized medicine out of here and keeping us sick and in debt.
It's like no one has read on their own or even bothered to see the film Sicko...of which they won't believe and many deny...despite all of us knowing tons of people in the same desperate situation.
US is crazy when it comes to vacation and sick leave...Europe gets two months vacation.
We are a sick nation...ruled by corporations who brainwash idiots into working non-stop all the time...for the good of the good ol' USA.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:20 pm to Hawkeye95
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my wife worked for an organization for a few years that didn't offer paid sick leave. you had to take your vacation days if you were going to miss work.
How old are you? This started back in the 90's where I live. When you got your first job, you would get 2 weeks of vacation and 5 days sick leave.
Guess what? People were calling in sick when they could work, so they changed the policy: 3 weeks vacation/sick leave combined. If you need longer, have to go on short-term disability (basically sick leave paid at a lower rate). You can also buy AFLAC insurance or something similar.
I don't see the problem?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:21 pm to Zamoro10
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for the good of the good ol' USA
This is not the reason I go to work
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