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re: US government taking stake in private companies.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:50 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:50 pm to Taxing Authority
Did you hit an age milestone? Your arguments are so basic lately, I'm suspicious that you've hit the old age brain like Roger.
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:54 pm to SDVTiger
So you are definitely a socialist , right? Just looking for the clarification...... Commie.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:55 pm to Taxing Authority
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Right. Just like if we don't let the government take all the AR15s away, we will have school shootings and daily mass shootings.
That’s a completely false equivalence.
No one is saying you can’t build weapons.
They’re just saying if you build national defense items the patents and export controls are going to be looked at with oversight from the feds as they would in literally any other nation in the world.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:55 pm to KiwiHead
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So you are definitely a socialist , right?
Is this your excuse for being a dumbarse? Just looking for clarification
Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:56 pm to Taxing Authority
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Indeed. Obama isn't even in office and has republicans implementing his agenda. YUGE win!
This is all the ronbots have left
How sad
Posted on 8/22/25 at 4:59 pm to SDVTiger
I'm not the one cheering government ownership of otherwise private companies... you are, Karl.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:01 pm to KiwiHead
Go home to mommy and cry beta male
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:10 pm to SDVTiger
So you have no comeback, you dirty socialist. Talk about beta males.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:14 pm to WeeWee
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It’s still mostly owned by non US government entities.
Bad idea.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:18 pm to WeeWee
Not a good idea, I don't care WHO is proposing it.
Didn't like it when the feds took ownership stakes in the banks and GM in the 2008 crisis in return for bailouts.
We all screamed about it back then but then because it's Trump, well, we just check out conservative principles at the door.
Government has no business taking shares of private business. Trump can be as enlightened as possible. However, a future president will start bending those companies to his will as an owner. Won't even have to issue rules but instead just tell them what to do.
BAD idea.
Didn't like it when the feds took ownership stakes in the banks and GM in the 2008 crisis in return for bailouts.
We all screamed about it back then but then because it's Trump, well, we just check out conservative principles at the door.
Government has no business taking shares of private business. Trump can be as enlightened as possible. However, a future president will start bending those companies to his will as an owner. Won't even have to issue rules but instead just tell them what to do.
BAD idea.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:22 pm to WeeWee
IDK either. On one hand, they were given more than that in grants. I don't think it is a good precedent though.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:26 pm to KiwiHead
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So you have no comeback, you dirty socialist. Talk about beta males.
This makes sense as usual. You should cry more Kommie
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:29 pm to AncientTiger
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Now, when or if the company pays off the Grant - Loan with interest, return the ownership. It is business not persona
It’s not structured that way at all though
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:30 pm to SmackoverHawg
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And instead of just giving tax dollars away, we are invested. Do this enough and the US taxpayer is getting a serious return on their money.
fricking lulz
People justifying this at all are pure sycophants.
If Biden did this you’d fricking riot.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:38 pm to GRTiger
quote:Don't need complex arguments when something is so obvioulsy wrong.
Did you hit an age milestone? Your arguments are so basic lately, I'm suspicious that you've hit the old age brain like Roger.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:39 pm to Taxing Authority
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Or maybe government should be giving money away to businesses. Just an idea.
If that option was on the table, you would be right. Unfortunately, in the real world, the government is giving away money.
So, your realistic options are:
1. Give away taxpayer money and get a return on the investment
2. Give away taxpayer money and get nothing in return
The "principled conservatives" choose to continue wasting taxpayer money. That's what happens when you don't live in the real world.
It would be great if they cut all the spending, but that's not going to happen. This is also money already allocated by law, so choosing to not get a return in this specific instance is even dumber.
If you want the US to maintain its technological advantage, money has to be spent. It makes sense to make a profit on that money. If companies don't want to pay back the money with interest, then they shouldn't take it to begin with.
Conservatives see all the problems with the country, but they refuse to do anything to fix them because their economic principles tell them there is only one way to do things. And when that way is not feasible, they do nothing and complain instead.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:39 pm to tide06
quote:You should look up analogies.
No one is saying you can’t build weapons.
quote:There's a word for that, too.
They’re just saying if you build national defense items the patents and export controls are going to be looked at with oversight from the feds as they would in literally any other nation in the world.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:41 pm to SDVTiger
quote:Rent free. Up in your head. Not a single person mentioned him. But hey... changing the subject was a good idea. I wouldn't want to have to defend socialism either.
This is all the ronbots have left
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:42 pm to prplhze2000
quote:TDS addled cuck, lefitst, Kamala lover, ronbot! WhO diD yOu VoTe FoR?
Not a good idea, I don't care WHO is proposing it.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:45 pm to WeeWee
Everyone does remember that we as taxpayers once owned.. what… half of General Motors and as much, if not close, to Chrysler?
And Obama sold most of the GM stock at a loss of course.
Hopefully intel doesn’t start building chips that have defects that make them quit at a high rate and they keep chugging along with it like GM does.
And Obama sold most of the GM stock at a loss of course.
Hopefully intel doesn’t start building chips that have defects that make them quit at a high rate and they keep chugging along with it like GM does.
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