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re: US controlled the Strait the entire time. US intelligence had eyes on every inch of IRAN!!

Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:40 am to
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US controlled the Strait the entire time.
Demonstratively false.
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US intelligence had eyes on every inch of IRAN!!
If this was true, every regime and military member would have been eliminated and the uranium gas would have been secured. Aspects of any deal is purely speculative at the moment. IF a MoU is reached as a result of negotiations, then concessions will have been made by both parties. Most will be disappointed whatever the terms are because of the quick demand for an ‘unconditional surrender’ that has never materialized.

There are geopolitical wins to be gained by both the U.S. and Iran (that possibly could have happened without hostilities.) For the moment, it would appear that some sort of ‘moderate’ regime will remain in power. Also, any deal would indicate that the IRGC has been greatly weakened, as many analysts believed that they were ‘de facto’ in charge. If (any number of) the leaked terms are true, this could be seen as a seismic shift in U.S./Israeli relations.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:40 am to
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Has any trumpers explained the graph or are they calling you names like little kids?


It appears the US hit Iran economically as well as militarily. Do you know if the US hit Iran technologically?

Regardless, Iran came begging for a deal. BEGGING!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:40 am to
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You have 18post so far

People post stupid and/or dishonest stuff

I correct them

You're only commenting on the volume of stupidity and dishonesty

Yeah, I agree, there is a lot of it on the board these days
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64236 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:41 am to
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You know we were moving oil through there the whole time, right?


How much? How much compared to before the war started?
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:41 am to
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Iran lost over 1 trillion dollars. They begged for the deal. The short term conflict that ended the 47 year old "war" will be remembered throughout history for what it accomplished.


I’m jealous of you. I wish I could completely detach from reality sometimes.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98902 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:42 am to
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People post stupid and/or dishonest stuff

I correct them


Yes its called rage posting

Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
6046 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:42 am to
And you can't think of a single way that this data could have been manipulated?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:43 am to
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You are right probably set them back much more than a decade.


Why?

Even in their weakened state they showed the utter futility of the combined Arab states, so they are no threat.

In that weakened state they fought Israel and the US to a stalemate.

They're going to get tens (hundreds?) of billions and have a wider ability to sell their oil. China is celebrating and ahs lots of military equipment to sell them. Russia will be happy to have its anti-globalist partner back and will also love to sell them lots of military equipment.

Considering they rebuilt their nuclear program in less than a year, I imagine a much easier task (rebuilding regular military) can be done in the same amount of time.

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They spent 47 years building a military and in the end they have a few guys in bayliners attacking cargo ships.

When how did they make the US quit?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:43 am to
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I correct them

Here he comes to dave the day!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:44 am to
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You know we were moving oil through there the whole time, right?

What % compared to prior to the war?
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
6046 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:44 am to
The JCPOA has been dead since 2022, you stupit mutha fricker!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:45 am to
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The JCPOA has been dead since 2022, you stupit mutha fricker!


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:45 am to
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And you can't think of a single way that this data could have been manipulated?


Other than the real-time monitoring of the shipping, we can also look to the global price of oil and what China was selling from its reserves.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1543 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:46 am to
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BEGGING

And we gave them everything they wanted. Almost like they had the upper hand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:47 am to
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Wow. If trump told these folks he invented the internet they'd believe him.


They're giving me Texas Tech vibes, where they debase themselves to defend Sorsby, only to have him enter the supplemental draft prior to playing a down for them.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 7:47 am
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
6046 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:47 am to
Are you serious? You didn't know that Biden didn't renew?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98902 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:47 am to
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Here he comes to dave the day!


The guy who has never been right about anything needs to correct everyone
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478689 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:47 am to
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Are you serious? You didn't know that Biden didn't renew?


I never said it was still in effect.

You're arguing against a strawman you created.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
91414 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:48 am to
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You're arguing against a strawman you created.

Irrelevant strawman! Ole news!
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64236 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 7:49 am to
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Jbird


Are you ok?
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