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re: US Chinese Virus Tracker - 466,299 Cases, 16,686 Deaths, 26,104 Recovered (4/10/2020)
Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:50 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:50 pm to Azkiger
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Why are you jumping in on a conversation you don't understand?
Why do you assume if a person asks about 1 comment in a 10 page thread they don't understand the basic conversation??
*you're not very good at this.
just take the "l" and move on*
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:52 pm to Dale51
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Again...that only exists in your mind.
So did you, or did you not, draw a comparison between America's total population and coronavirus cases/deaths and ask if it's really "a big deal"?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:53 pm to Azkiger
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Why rush to produce millions if there's no shortage?
So we could help the rest of the world if they needed them and we didn't? The world is just one big family.
Why wouldn't you want to help a family member??
Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:55 pm to Azkiger
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So did you, or did you not, draw a comparison between America's total population and coronavirus cases/deaths and ask if it's really "a big deal"?
No I didn't.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:57 pm to LSURussian
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Nothing I read says that's the case in the U.S. Maybe I've just missed that bit of news.
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North Carolina officials say the state does not have enough test kits for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
Health and Human Services Secretary Mandy Cohen said at a press conference Friday the supply of kits from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is running low.
"Although we made plans based on assurances from the CDC, we, like many other states, have not received the supplies to run the tests that we need," she said. "Currently, [at] the state lab, we have on hand enough supplies from the CDC to test approximately 150 people."
LINK
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Washington health officials have more cases than they can currently process. And in New York, where cases have quadrupled this week, a New York City official pleaded for more test kits from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
LINK
quote:One positive case found in a crowded workplace, a food service provider, school setting, etc leads to dozens of contact tests (or more). Negative results among exposed contacts require retest 24-48hrs later. So a location with a couple of sudden positives can run through a bunch of kits quickly.
Mike Pence: US does not have enough coronavirus tests
LINK
Posted on 3/7/20 at 1:58 pm to Dale51
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Why do you assume if a person asks about 1 comment in a 10 page thread they don't understand the basic conversation??
Why are you conflating the basic conversation occuring over these 10 pages and the specific conversation between BeNotDeceivedGal6_7 and I?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:00 pm to Dale51
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No I didn't.
What were you arguing/stating with this post then?
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So 330,000,000 people 317 cases. 15 (old people with respiratory problems to begin with?) died. Is that a big deal?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:05 pm to Dale51
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So we could help the rest of the world if they needed them and we didn't? The world is just one big family.
Why wouldn't you want to help a family member??
From the article (which you read, right?)
"Yesterday the White House announced that it had established a consortium of the nation’s largest private testing companies, which are now mobilizing to provide test kits to commercial and private institutional testing facilities around the country."
The test kits are for our own use.
Again, why rush to produce millions of kits if there's no shortage?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:17 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:The second paragraph in your link says:
Mike Pence: US does not have enough coronavirus tests
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“For those who we believe have been exposed, for those who are showing symptoms, we’ve been able to provide the testing,” (Pence) said at a 3M plant in Minnesota, which manufactures the N95 respirator, a face mask used as personal protective equipment against airborne particles, including bacteria and viruses.
I don't trust the NY Times link and story for obvious reasons.
The N. Carolina story says they have 150 kits on hand and expect 500 more soon. It doesn't say they have more people than that waiting to be tested.
I trust your knowledge but it still doesn't appear to me people are not being tested because there are no test kits available. More kits are needed in the coming days for sure but right now are there suspected cases nationwide not being tested due to a lack of test kits? I don't see that's the case in the links. Especially if more than a million test kits will be distributed by the end of this weekend per the link I posted earlier.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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Mike Pence: US does not have enough coronavirus tests
From the article:
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We don’t have enough tests today to meet what we anticipate the demand going forward,” he continued
What part of "anticipated" and "going forward" do you not get?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:31 pm to Azkiger
quote:Do you think the number of CV-19 cases today in the U.S. will remain the same over the next few months?
Again, why rush to produce millions of kits if there's no shortage?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:39 pm to LSURussian
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Do you think the number of CV-19 cases today in the U.S. will remain the same over the next few months?
They're rushing to produce 2.1 mil within the next 8-9 days according to an article someone else linked.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:56 pm to RD Dawg
quote:The part where one infection missed due to trying to conserve limited tests CAN LEAD TO AN UNNECESSARY OUTBREAK!
What part of "anticipated" and "going forward" do you not get?
The part where lack of tests on the west coast already resulted in a preventable outbreak which wiped out $3.6Trillion in the markets.
The part where lack of tests refocuses attention on the Administration's CDC incompetence in addressing initial test needs.
What part do you not get?
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:57 pm to LSURussian
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It doesn't say they have more people than that waiting to be tested.
Correct.Almost the entire "test kit" narrative from NY Times,CNN,WAPO etc has been nothing more than qoutes being taken completely out of context and their own bias interpretation of statements coming from the administration.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:27 pm to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
quote:And when I can catch heart disease from you, that will become more of an issue.quote:
the death toll is still rising
What is the daily death toll of heart disease in America? Over 1000! Where's the daily tally reminder?
Again, your "basic" coronavirus is one of the common cold viruses. You've had it, I've had it, everyone we know has had it. 99% of the time, we don't even treat it with medicines, we churn through it blowing our noses and sneezing, and in a couple of days overcome it. Only in the most severe cases do people even go buy stuff like Tylenol Cold and Flu.
Now, factor in a version that people are being diagnosed, stuck into ICU's, put on IV antibiotics and fluids, given respiratory treatments etc. And even with all that, some are still dying. Are they weakened individuals, yeah for the most part.
That's STILL an exponentially more deadly strain. And the fact remains, it is one of the most contagious bugs out there.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:28 pm to Azkiger
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From the article (which you read, right?)
"Yesterday the White House announced that it had established a consortium of the nation’s largest private testing companies, which are now mobilizing to provide test kits to commercial and private institutional testing facilities around the country."
The test kits are for our own use.
Again, why rush to produce millions of kits if there's no shortage?
You're taking this whole "Discussion Board" thing waaaaay too seriously.
I answered all those questions. If you don't like the answers, thats your problem.
You people!!
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:46 pm to NC_Tigah
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The part where one infection missed due to trying to conserve limited tests CAN LEAD TO AN UNNECESSARY OUTBREAK!
1 infection missed? How many flu infections have we "missed" due to "conserve limited test"? How bout H1N1? (60 million cases in the US in '09 BTW) We'll have 4 million test by the end of next week BTW.How many more do we need? 10 million? 25 million?
Oh and since you're sooooo concerned about this virus don't ya think it's a good time to seal up the boarders and to test and vaccinate illegals and legals for infections diseases? How bout we put an end to sanctuary cities? Don't you think that'll help contain the virus? I mean 1 ONE INFECTION MISSED can cause an outbreak, correct?
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The part where lack of tests
Who was supposed to have been tested in the Washington outbreak?
From the NY Times and three SCENARIOS on what MIGHT have caused the "outbreak"
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severe in older people with underlying health conditions. That means the coronavirus could be circulating in other communities — in Washington or elsewhere — but causing mild enough symptoms that those who are contracting it do not seek or require medical care, therefore unintentionally passing it on.
In another scenario, someone who had become infected in China, where the virus originated, might have returned to Washington weeks ago with a mild infection and passed it on, undetected, until many more people became affected. The longer a virus is circulating in a community, the more likely transmission is to happen.
Lastly, Washington State may be performing more tests than other states, relative to its population. It’s not clear whether that is the case. And states are applying their own criteria to determine whom to test.
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part where lack of tests refocuses attention on the Administration's CDC incompetence in addressing initial test needs.
Hmmmmm,so what exactly happened in Italy? They had plenty of test kits available.They've had a 30% rise from yesterday alone. and over 5000 cases.
So tell me again why it took Obama over 6 months,1000 deaths and millions infected before he called a "national emergency" back in '09.
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What part do you want to answer?
FIFY
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:01 pm to Boatshoes
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:53 pm to Dale51
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You're taking this whole "Discussion Board" thing waaaaay too seriously.
Just take the L man.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:58 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Remind me how those incidents affected markets?
How many flu infections have we "missed" due to "conserve limited test"? How bout H1N1?
Remind me how those epidemics affected supply chains?
Remind me how they affected an economic slowdown in a Presidential election year?
Remind me about the MSM running down the economy while the '09 US H1N1 epidemic exploded with no available vaccine and the Obama administration did nothing for 6months?
Because as an investor in 2009, my recollection is I made excellent money.
Perhaps if you had significant experience in that market, you would share the recollection. Got it?
I make no attempt whatsoever to justify the Corona hysteria. It is out of all proportion to the disease. That is deliberate. Two months ago consensus was forming that the only way Trump could be defeated is if the US entered a recession. The Democrat media is desperately squeezing this CV story to get us there.
This is not about a viral apocalypse bozo.
Frankly if it was, you'd need to pull your head out of Alex Azar's arse so you could hear me explain it to you.
quote:We have 12 deaths which originated from a single nursing home in Washington. You may not have heard that. Do you know how many onsite tests were done to immediately sort out exposure and contacts? Of course you don't. If you did you'd never have brought it up. The answer is ZERO. Not a single onsite test was done. You know why? Because the CDC had none ready.
Who was supposed to have been tested in the Washington outbreak?
Trump bought the CDC several weeks with his China travel ban, and they still screwed up test availability.
Prior to Seattle, the first COVID-19 case in the country went 4 days in San Francisco's surrounds from initial suspicion to diagnosis. You know why? Of course you don't. There were no onsite tests. Samples had to be sent cross-country. But the national lab was so backed up due to . . . wait4it . . . no onsite tests anywhere, that they refused to accept the CA patient's sample for two days. When the pt spiked a high fever, CDC committed to testing her. The turnaround was two more days. Only then did the CDC braintrust begin contact tracing.
At that point Japan, Singapore, South Korea, and a litany of countries had onsite tests available.
It is indefensible, but that's water under the bridge.
The way out now is to test anyone with any possibility of infection. Stem the spread. Continue aggressive screening tests. Regain public confidence, and get to the fall on the upswing.
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