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U.S. Capitol riot: FBI provocation

Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted by basionok
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:41 pm
One-third of the people outside of the Capitol complex on Jan. 6 were actual FBI agents hanging out…what did people know? And when did they know it? We got to get to the bottom of this.

Sen.Ted Cruz (R-TX) questioned an FBI official on the role played by Ray Epps, a Marine veteran, who was seen in video from January 6 urging Trump supporters to go into the building.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson also has theorized that government agents may have helped aid the crowds on Jan. 6 saying “we know the government is hiding the identity of many law enforcement officers who were present at the capitol on January 6.”

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Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:43 pm to
Half of the people in the capital building were feds I’m sure. The only half bot rotting in prison with no due process.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:47 pm to
People: the entire JAN 6 event was STAGED....BIG TIME!

And the DEMS have been caught red-handed at every turn, yet nothing will be done because:

They ain't NO justice in Washington DC! And that's a FACT!
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20228 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:50 pm to
Anyone being at least somewhat intellectually honest knows there was some shady set up shite going on there.

The Feds just kick back and say to those of us on the right in particular … “You will be lied to with impunity and like it!”
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59944 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:51 pm to
January 6 was an inside job. You'd think that liberals would be giddy at Feds openly entrapping Trump supporters.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53381 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:52 pm to
There were a few different guys posted about in the Revolver article.
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Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:00 pm to
What I don't understand is how there seems to be a hodge podge of charges/penalties for people essentially doing the same thing.

There are people jailed just for being in the area, not walking into the bldg, but we're identified on video just being there.

What rule/law is being used to keep these people imprisoned for so long without a "speedy trial"?
Posted by basionok
Member since May 2022
403 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 1:20 pm to
There were several FBI operatives who infiltrated the crowd and were leading the assault on the US Capitol.

As scores of Proud Boys made their way, chanting and shouting, toward the Capitol on Jan. 6, one member of the far-right group was busy texting a real-time account of the march.

The recipient was his FBI handler.

In the middle of an unfolding melee that shook a pillar of American democracy — the peaceful transfer of power — the bureau had an informant in the crowd, providing an inside glimpse of the action, according to confidential records obtained by The New York Times. In the informant’s version of events, the Proud Boys, famous for their street fights, were largely following a pro-Trump mob consumed by a herd mentality rather than carrying out any type of preplanned attack.

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After meeting his fellow Proud Boys at the Washington Monument that morning, the informant described his path to the Capitol grounds, where he saw barriers knocked down and Trump supporters streaming into the building, the records show. At one point, his handler appeared not to grasp that the building had been breached, the records show, and asked the informant to keep him in the loop — especially if there was any violence.

The use of informants always presents law enforcement officials with difficult judgments about the credibility and completeness of the information they provide. In this case, the records obtained by The Times do not directly address whether the informant was in a good position to know about plans developed for Jan. 6 by the leadership of the Proud Boys, why he was cooperating, whether he could have missed indications of a plot or whether he could have deliberately misled the government.

But the records, and information from two people familiar with the matter, suggest that federal law enforcement had a far greater visibility into the assault on the Capitol, even as it was taking place, than was previously known.

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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 1:26 pm to
Remember when you posted that we needed to get back to the conservatism of Bush/Cheney?

You’re going to need to get a unified persona together to post here regularly.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24976 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 1:27 pm to
Do I really think it was "FBI provocation"?


This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/12/22 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24976 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 8:12 pm to
Let's not forget Hillary's 35,000+ e-mails she tried to illegally keep from the DOJ/FBI.

And the devices sha and her underlings all destroyed.

Never once getting any substantive punishment or being held accountable.
Posted by basionok
Member since May 2022
403 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:50 am to
Congress and D.C. city officials, not Donald Trump, were responsible for protecting the Capitol:

It is the primary duty of the Capitol Police board—made up of the sergeant-at-arms for the Senate and the House and the architect of the Capitol—to secure the sprawling complex. The federal police force, with a budget of more than half a billion dollars, employs at least 2,000 officers and houses numerous bureaus, including an intelligence unit; the Capitol building should have been well-protected on January 6 during a controversial joint session of Congress with Vice President Michael Pence presiding.

But Paul Irving, Nancy Pelosi’s sergeant-at-arms at the time, and Michael Stenger, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s sergeant-at-arms, repeatedly denied requests by the Capitol police chief for extra help days before the Capitol protest. As the chaos unfolded that afternoon, Irving and Stenger continued to delay numerous pleas to deploy the National Guard. Although more than 1,000 guardsmen were stationed at the D.C. armory on the morning of January 6, they were not summoned to the Capitol complex until well after 5:00 p.m.

D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser also refused to activate a significant number of guardsmen on January 6. Instead, Bowser authorized a few hundred guardsmen for traffic and pedestrian control. D.C. Metro police officers arrived at the Capitol shortly after the joint session convened at 1:00 p.m.

It does not appear that the January 6 select committee has interviewed Irving, Stenger, or Bowser. (Irving and Stenger conveniently resigned on January 7; Irving refused to testify before the Senate committee investigating the “attack.”) In addition, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) has announced Pelosi’s records related to January 6 were “off-limits.”

Committee members and the media insist Trump bears some culpability for lax security on January 6; according to Kash Patel, chief of staff for the acting secretary of defense during the final weeks of the Trump Administration, the president on January 4 authorized the use of 20,000 guardsmen. But the activation of those troops would have required a formal request by either Capitol Police or Bowser’s office

And contrary to another widely-accepted narrative, Capitol police at several vantage points allowed protesters into the building and, without warning, the building was closed.

No police officers died on January 6 or as a result of the protest:

Four supporters of Donald Trump—Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips—died on January 6. Babbitt, an unarmed veteran who posed no lethal threat, was shot and killed by Capitol police officer Michael Byrd around 2:45 p.m. near the Speaker’s Lobby. Boyland died around 4:30 p.m. outside the lower west terrace tunnel where D.C. and Capitol police were engaged in violent confrontations with protesters. Witnesses say Greeson and Phillips suffered fatal heart attacks after being hit with stun grenades, an explosive device used by police outside the building that afternoon.

Eyewitness accounts and extensive video footage show police attacking people peacefully assembled on Capitol grounds shortly after 1 p.m. A Capitol official testified during a recent trial that the department used non-lethal munitions for the first time in history on January 6.

Despite claims by everyone from Joe Biden to local news reporters, no police officer died on January 6. For months, Capitol police and the media lied about the death of Officer Brian Sicknick; the New York Times reported on January 8, 2021, that Sicknick had been bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, an allegation that was included in the House Democrats’ official impeachment memo. But the report was false; the Times retracted the account a month later. After a lengthy delay, the D.C. coroner finally issued his finding that Sicknick died of natural causes—a stroke caused by two blood clots near his brain.

Four police officers reportedly took their lives after January 6; two Capitol police officers committed suicide in the days following the protest and two D.C. officers killed themselves months later but there’s no proof any of those suicides is tied to the events of that day.

No one carried firearms into the building:

On January 7, 2021, Pelosi described the previous day as an “armed insurrection,” a narrative that persisted for months. The public was led to believe gun-toting Trump supporters “stormed” the building with intent to harm or even kill lawmakers in an attempt to overthrow the government.

Now, nearly 18 months later, no one has been charged with carrying a firearm into the building on January 6. Four men were charged with possessing or carrying a firearm on Capitol grounds, including one man who was arrested that evening after the protest ended.

The only person who used a gun on January 6 was Lt. Michael Byrd, the cop who executed Ashli Babbitt at near-point blank range. Byrd was exonerated by the Justice Department and Capitol Police officials; he remains on the job.

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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:52 am to
You’re a bipolar poster.
Posted by basionok
Member since May 2022
403 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:52 am to
The FBI refuses to disclose information pertaining to the use of undercover agents and informants:

Numerous court motions filed by January 6 defense attorneys refer to unknown federal agents present at the Capitol throughout the day. The New York Times reported last September that the FBI embedded at least two informants in the Proud Boys months before the Capitol protest; Newsweek recently revealed that Jeffrey Rosen, the acting attorney general at the time, summoned hundreds of elite FBI agents, including the Hostage Rescue Team, to Quantico the weekend before January 6. Contrary to Rosen’s public testimony, according to Newsweek, those agents were deployed to downtown D.C. the morning of January 6 and some had “shoot-to-kill” authority if necessary.

During her Senate testimony on the one-year anniversary of the protest, FBI counterterrorism chief Jill Sanborn rebuffed questions about whether FBI agents or informants engaged in or provoked violent behavior on January 6. She also refused to explain why Ray Epps, a man seen multiple times on video exhorting people to go inside the Capitol, was removed from the agency’s most-wanted list and has so far evaded arrest. The FBI continues to ignore congressional inquiries into her testimony.

As the Whitmer “kidnapping” hoax demonstrated, the FBI is deeply involved in the surveillance and set up of Americans the agency considers “anti-government” extremists. (A Michigan jury in April acquitted two men charged in the hoax after defense attorneys successfully argued they were entrapped by the FBI; the jury could not reach a verdict on two other defendants who now face a second trial.) Further, Steven D’Antuono, head of the Michigan FBI field office primarily responsible for the hoax, was promoted to head of the D.C. FBI field office in mid-October 2020, right after his agents arrested the fake kidnappers and several weeks before the Capitol protest. His office is the lead investigatory agency in the Justice Department’s prosecution of more than 800 Americans now charged for their involvement in January 6.

It does not appear that D’Antuono or FBI Director Christopher Wray have been interviewed by the committee.

The FBI also appears to have lost interest in the so-called “pipe bomber” who allegedly planted explosives outside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee on the evening of January 5. News of the bombs prompted the first evacuation of adjacent House buildings and set off panic in the city and news media. The FBI claimed it would conduct an investigation and offered a reward for the bomber’s capture. Nearly 18 months later, not only has the suspect not been caught, the FBI refuses to release any information pertaining to an investigation. Further, the pipe bombs have not been mentioned by committee members or the focus of any public hearings.

The January 6 committee is pure political theater intended to crush the MAGA movement once and for all. And like so many attempts before—the Russian collusion hoax, the first impeachment trial, the stolen 2020 election, the second impeachment trial—Democrats and the media are successfully brainwashing millions of their cult-like disciples who allow themselves to be duped time and again by the likes of Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.).

Facts, as they say, do matter—and the aforementioned list is just a handful of indisputable truths related to January 6, 2021, that the other side doesn’t want the American people to see. So share it widely.

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Posted by basionok
Member since May 2022
403 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:58 pm to
While there is growing speculation that federal agents and Capitol Police were involved in instigating acts of violence during the Jan. 6, 2021 protests and recording responses for the purposes of entrapment, evidence now proves that “plainclothes” members of a special Electronic Surveillance Unit (ESU) were embedded among the protesters for the purposes of conducting video surveillance. Evidence also points to a day of security deficiencies and police provocation for the purpose of entrapment.

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Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12892 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

What rule/law is being used to keep these people imprisoned for so long without a "speedy trial"?

Defendants can have their attorneys waive their right to speedy trial if they feel it is advantageous for justice.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29092 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:08 pm to
That piece of shite Ray Epps was definitely paid to be there by the FBI.
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