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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:50 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:50 pm to Chromdome35
Another way of looking at the same numbers to date:
Worldwide, 1 in every 9,075 people is/was a case and 1 in 185,000 died
In Spain, 1 in every 475 people is a case and 1 in 5,375 died
In Italy, 1 in every 575 people is a case and 1 in 4,900 died
In the US, 1 in every 1,750 people is a case and 1 in 85,000 died
In South Korea, 1 in every 5,175 people is a case and 1 in 310,000 died
In New York state, 1 in every 250 people is a case and 1 in 12,000 died
In Louisiana, 1 in every 875 people is a case and 1 in 19,000 died
Worldwide, 1 in every 9,075 people is/was a case and 1 in 185,000 died
In Spain, 1 in every 475 people is a case and 1 in 5,375 died
In Italy, 1 in every 575 people is a case and 1 in 4,900 died
In the US, 1 in every 1,750 people is a case and 1 in 85,000 died
In South Korea, 1 in every 5,175 people is a case and 1 in 310,000 died
In New York state, 1 in every 250 people is a case and 1 in 12,000 died
In Louisiana, 1 in every 875 people is a case and 1 in 19,000 died
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:55 pm to NorthEndZone
Thanks to all providing info here. Wow, Chrome, you are fantastic!!!! Fingers crossed.
One point - while these are numbers, I hate to rely on them as being accurate. Yes, I know what is being reported, however, anecdotally, almost 2 weeks ago I was over in St Pete Beach. Had dinner with a group that included a young mid 20's girl from Tampa. Turns out, a few days later she ran a fever and went and got tested. We are now 8 days out without any test results.
If Tampa... a Florida hotspot, is 8 days behind in results, I think that is bad. However, if she does not have it, where does that stat go?
Either way, 8 days … going on 9 so far, is way too long for a test result.
One point - while these are numbers, I hate to rely on them as being accurate. Yes, I know what is being reported, however, anecdotally, almost 2 weeks ago I was over in St Pete Beach. Had dinner with a group that included a young mid 20's girl from Tampa. Turns out, a few days later she ran a fever and went and got tested. We are now 8 days out without any test results.
If Tampa... a Florida hotspot, is 8 days behind in results, I think that is bad. However, if she does not have it, where does that stat go?
Either way, 8 days … going on 9 so far, is way too long for a test result.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:01 pm to dafif
So I’m really hating to ask this aging but I will.
Once we’re ”allowed” to go about our business, how will this thing not ramp up again??
I appreciate your patience.
Once we’re ”allowed” to go about our business, how will this thing not ramp up again??
I appreciate your patience.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:02 pm to dafif
None of the infections that happen are those happening on that day when information becomes public through state reportings.
The information you see today were likely infections that were occurring 7 to 14 days ago.
I've been tracking every case in my state since the start of the month and a week long from when the test is taken to knowing the results is common. Thus, all data is already several days old besides deaths.
The information you see today were likely infections that were occurring 7 to 14 days ago.
I've been tracking every case in my state since the start of the month and a week long from when the test is taken to knowing the results is common. Thus, all data is already several days old besides deaths.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:08 pm to tiger91
I suspect they will only allow healthy workers back and you will be required to wear a mask. They are finding, and this is a global finding, that 25 to 40 percent of those infected with COVID19 do not develop systems.
Remember that famous ship where a bunch of people got sick and many died? 18 of them tested positive but never developed a symptom.
There is something about this virus that is lethal to people that have certain health issues.
I've seen a lot of obese people when the media posts images of people who have passed away from COVID...diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung cancer, prior smokers and current smokers, etc. Essentially, if your lungs or oxygen functions are already compromised you could be in serious trouble.
I see the back to work looking like this:
-state choices
- required to wear a mask
- healthy individuals only
- temperatures taken to enter buildings (Walmart is already starting this)
Remember that famous ship where a bunch of people got sick and many died? 18 of them tested positive but never developed a symptom.
There is something about this virus that is lethal to people that have certain health issues.
I've seen a lot of obese people when the media posts images of people who have passed away from COVID...diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung cancer, prior smokers and current smokers, etc. Essentially, if your lungs or oxygen functions are already compromised you could be in serious trouble.
I see the back to work looking like this:
-state choices
- required to wear a mask
- healthy individuals only
- temperatures taken to enter buildings (Walmart is already starting this)
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:10 pm to uppermidwestbama
Correct. Cases per day should be read as “cases confirmed on this date”. It doesn’t reflect when the actual test was administered, since some tests can be read in as little as 45 minutes, while others can take several days.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:18 pm to uppermidwestbama
How are you tracking all cases?? State dept of health employee?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:21 pm to uppermidwestbama
Thanks. I work in a nursing home so temp checks will be a given although I can work from home. Many of our employees are overweight — and many smoke. Double whammy for them if they should ever get it.
I’m more curious about restaurants and stores opening and that type thing.
I’m more curious about restaurants and stores opening and that type thing.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:24 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
Today saw a large rise in cases @ 24,752 a 15.1% increase over yesterday. The growth rate of cases increased, breaking a 4-day downward trend. The case growth rate has been a decline since reaching a peak of 48.9% back on 3/19. We won't be able to say if the downward trend that started on 3/19 is over until we see a few more days of growth numbers. Back on 3/26, we saw a 1-day increase in growth rate, but then it fell back to the declining pattern...
we're going to see peaks/spikes, I'm personally encouraged we only saw a 1% increase in growth rate. if it starts to go up more I will get concerned again
eta: the 748 deaths really sucks.. I knew we would see bad numbers but damn that went up
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:34 pm to Tiguar
I wish I could go into a coma until June then if stuff still hasn’t changed, go back until Labor Day, rinse and repeat
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:36 pm to beastieboys
quote:
Who gives a rats arse about Wall Street
Almost everyone with any understanding of what it is.
Essentially anyone who is no/low debt should be very interested in what happens there.
Fun calculation:
Average price of cigarettes in LA is $5.44/pack. LINK
5.44*365 = $1985.60= the price of smoking one pack of cigarettes daily. I know tons of people who are not well off that can afford this. This isn't a huge sum of money.
To smoke an entire working career (until 65) would cost $93,323.20. We will, for this exercise, assume that inflation never touched the cost of cigarettes.
Let's take Joe Camelia. He wonders what would happen if he took an aggressive strategy, and, instead of putting $5.44 into pleasure, he puts it in an old fund in the stock market like the S&P 500. Which, since 1957 has returned around 8% per year on average. This stops in 2018. The average would be lower today. We would expect it, in the next 15-20 years to come back to around there. Let's be more pessimistic and knock an entire percentage point off, because we expect worse performance in the future.
Those same $93K added annually at the above rate of $1985 growing at an average rate of 7% would yield $699,256.13, and, for the optimists who want to apply past performance to future performance and use 8%, ~$971K.
This, of course, assumes you only buy and never sell. If you were 65, had achieved an 8% return averaged over the last 47y and had $971K, you would have lost value near 20% (~$200,000). That would still put you outgaining simply saving by 5-7x (accounting for the downturn and assuming you sold today). But this is why everyone should care about Wall Street. Because every 18 year old that can afford to smoke a pack of Marlboro's daily can just about afford to be a millionaire at retirement age.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:36 pm to Jrv2damac
quote:
I wish I could go into a coma until June then if stuff still hasn’t changed, go back until Labor Day, rinse and repeat
Then you go broke for the huge medical bills!
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:38 pm to TrueLefty
nah someone just do it at home for me with a brick or something
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:41 pm to Tiguar
quote:
we only saw a 1% increase in growth rate.
15.1%
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:42 pm to LSURussian
Growth rate.
14.1 -> 15.1
14.1 -> 15.1
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:43 pm to LSURussian
quote:
15.1%
Pretty much the same as 1%
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:17 pm to Powerman
Something tells me if the Dems really wanted they could test large metro areas and find tons of new cases. The focus has just been on nyc because coumo has been making so much noise. We may see a sharp rise in cases as testing comes more readily but overall should shrink the death rate substantially. The next two weeks will be hell.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:24 pm to uppermidwestbama
quote:Correct. For those that took and learned your calculus this is redundant. But for others this may help.
Many are looking at things wrong. The flattening of the curve never happens until the growth rate (how fast this is spreading from person to person) slows. That number is slowing down.
Take a look at the first three charts Chromedome posts.
When the third "New Case Growth Rate" chart gets to 0, the chart above it "New CV Cases By Day" will be "flat". That's the first significant point in this thing. We will still be adding cases--but not as fast.
At that point the second chart will be "flat". And then it will start to fall. The first chart ("total cases") will still be rising, just not as fast. When the second chart (new cases for the day) reaches 0, the first chart (Total cases) will be "flat". We have a MUCH MORE significant point in this thing -- the number of case beginning to fall. If this thing is "regular" that would be the 'half-way' point.
Where are we now?
The third chart "New Case Growth Rate" has had a pretty good trend going (falling toward 0) for the a few days. Today it didn't fall. But that doesn't end the trend. We have to watch what it does tomorrow, next day, etc. to see if we are still heading toward or away from 0.
The second chart "New CV Cases By Day" is no where near 0. That's how you know we have a long, long way to go.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:34 pm to frogglet
quote:Hospitalizations is probably the most reliable metric we have at this point. Unfortunately backing out infection rates from hopitalization rates is kinda shakey. I don't think the hospitalization admittance criteria is very consistent. I'd reckon you're a lot more likely to be admitted at a slow hospital than one in NYC for example. Comparisions to other countries is even more shakey.
It is also why looking at hospitalizations and deaths will be better to track the epidemic than total case numbers.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:46 pm to Hopeful Doc
quote:Well done.
Because every 18 year old that can afford to smoke a pack of Marlboro's daily can just about afford to be a millionaire at retirement age.
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