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Universities attempting to circumvent new rules regarding international students

Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:04 pm
I have seen several reports about how various universities are trying to come up with bogus ways to protect their international students from having to obey recently enacted regulations regarding online instruction and immigration status.

Make no mistake about it: the only reason these universities are concerned is because international students pay out-of-state tuition and losing that revenue will add to the pain universities are already experiencing because of virus concerns.

Here are just two examples of bogus plans:

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And an excerpt from the new president of the U of Maryland's largest campus:

I stand in solidarity with our international students, who are highly valued for everything they contribute to our diverse and vibrant community. We will continue to look out for all Terrapin students from every country of origin, and we are working with our representatives in Congress to protect immigration status of our international undergraduate and graduate students. We are urgently considering alternative options, as this newly announced rule has caused great concern. I am asking Provost Mary Ann Rankin to direct colleges and schools to seek academic solutions that ensure more in-person instruction, including the use of independent research, discipline seminar courses and other courses that offer in-person instruction to our international students.

This university president obviously sees himself as a lobbyist and wannabe politician.

Is it any wonder students don't respect the law and cheating is widespread?!?!
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 7:07 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108360 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:06 pm to
Save for Chinese students, Trump should stop this shite. But absolutely expel Chinese students from the country, as bad as I will feel for them.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30632 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:07 pm to
Quite the conundrum universities are in.

Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:08 pm to
I don’t see how the schools would be able to play both ends by going heavily online yet managing in-person instruction for exchange students in order to keep the high fees coming in.

Sounds like Trump pushing hard on this may actually force schools to have in-person classes for everyone.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27950 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

seek academic solutions that ensure more in-person instruction, including the use of independent research, discipline seminar courses and other courses that offer in-person instruction to our international students.


This sounds like preferential treatment. Would that be legal?
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45736 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:10 pm to
So, they can have in-person instruction to keep the international dollars flowing? Then they should be able to have in-person instruction because, you know, that's what ALL the students paid for.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:10 pm to
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as bad as I will feel for them.

They're soulless bug people, spies, and cheaters. My GF was a TA a few years ago and the university had specific training for them to watch the chinese students because they worked together to cheat on EVERYTHING. They also steal all sorts of research from here and flip professors and other people into spying and working for the ccp.

I also did business in china and with the chinese in my old job. If every chinese citizen died today, I wouldn't feel bad for a single one of of them. Don't ever feel bad for those monsters.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:10 pm to
If the foreign students are paying for that, then it is probably legal. Make it a $5-10K fee per semester on top of everything else.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:11 pm to
Of course not since they probably won't be available to all students.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25982 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:11 pm to
Schools are trying to figure out how to keep their international athletes from being barred from coming over and some are working on making at least one course per semester in-class in order to prevent them from being deported. The new rule is really aimed at kicking the Chinese military who are disguised as military from continuing to infiltrate our government research programs.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19235 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:42 pm to
Not to be glib, but that separate and not equal treatment will be difficult to sustain.

Native students will feel cheated.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9599 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:45 pm to
How is it bogus? Their students will transfer if they have to leave the us.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:47 pm to
I still have yet to hear anyone explain what we gain from this DHS regulation
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:49 pm to
What do we lose?

I applaud the administration making the universities admit they’re playing around with the virus stuff.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:51 pm to
Kill them all with fire...
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108360 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:55 pm to
I lived there, dude. They’re the CCP’s biggest victims. We should absolutely be rooting for them to overthrow their government.

quote:

If every chinese citizen died today, I wouldn't feel bad for a single one of of them. Don't ever feel bad for those monsters.


OK, you’re completely fricked in the head. You shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near power, including management or a gun.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108360 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:56 pm to
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Kill them all with fire...


All international students? Even the Brits and Australians? What do you think foreign countries will do to our students over there, you fricking illiterate retard? As a person who studied in China, I’m fine with them shipping our citizens back as retaliation for us shipping theirs back, but you want a war crime that would get thousands of Americans killed. Another person completely fricked in the head.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105408 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
Yep
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
We lose tens of thousands of spenders. As a group, students are large net spenders, who take very few jobs, and who commit very few crimes. When we are talking about foreign students in particular, we are talking about huge sums of foreign money flowing into the US economy that we are now willingly giving up at a time when our economy is already struggling. And not just tuition; rent, food, entertainment, etc., all of it representing dollars flowing from foreign economies into the US. A foreign student getting an education at a US university is a US export. I thought we were in favor or boosting US exports around here.


So with that cost in the backdrop, I’ll ask again; what do we gain from this regulation?
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:58 pm to
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Save for Chinese students, Trump should stop this shite. But absolutely expel Chinese students from the country, as bad as I will feel for them.
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