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Unions Yes or No? Would you say yes if Unions Came out as pro GOP?
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:50 am
If Unions supported GOP canidates would this change your mind about Unions? I hear this from so many people that work in idustries courted by Unions. While in college i worked for a large steel mill in Texas in the summer. The place was beyone anti union and this was in 1994-1996. Since then the company has been sold it esop program taken away and wages havent risen in 10+ years. I have friends that work there still and bitch constantly about how bad the company treats them but would never vot for a union because they support the DEMS. The GOP has never supported workers rights, so i can understand why Unions support DEMS. It's a horrible move by the Unions.
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:53 am to hawkeye007
Unions are corrupt to the core.
Most major corporations are as well.
Worker gets fricked either way.
Most major corporations are as well.
Worker gets fricked either way.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:54 am to hawkeye007
No. Unions are trash. They don't protect good workers, as good workers would have no problems finding work. They protect shitty workers and make it impossible to cut dead weight.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:56 am to hawkeye007
Some unions or similar bodies are pro-GOP, mainly the rank-and-file of your police and firefighter unions.
In fact in a lot of trade unions this may actually be the case: the rank-and-file is conservative while leadership is liberal. (This wouldn't apply to teachers, government employees, and of that ilk.)
In fact in a lot of trade unions this may actually be the case: the rank-and-file is conservative while leadership is liberal. (This wouldn't apply to teachers, government employees, and of that ilk.)
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:56 am to hawkeye007
There should be no such thing as a government employee union. I don't care about the rest of them. They are relics of the past.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:57 am to hawkeye007
Unions that make sense- trade unions that offer apprenticeships, testing standards, and certify work. Pipe fitters, electrical, construction.
The rest? Outdated and serve no positive role in our economy.
The rest? Outdated and serve no positive role in our economy.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:00 pm to bamarep
Unions would only support the GOP if they felt that illegal aliens were a threat to lower their wages. I think the union rank and file folks are more conservative than their leadership because they feel that illegal aliens are keeping wages low for their non-union family, friends, and neighbors.
Unions and corporations are corrupt for the same reason: they are able to get favorable treatment by contributing money to election campaigns of key politicians.
Unions and corporations are corrupt for the same reason: they are able to get favorable treatment by contributing money to election campaigns of key politicians.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:01 pm to Smokeyone
Right, I think construction trades are fine. Public unions don't make a lot of sense to me.
That is going to be one of the interesting issues if DeSantis becomes the candidate. Can he appeal to the blue collar union guys like Trump?
That is going to be one of the interesting issues if DeSantis becomes the candidate. Can he appeal to the blue collar union guys like Trump?
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:03 pm to hawkeye007
I don't find the concept of unions that objectionable as long as they remain voluntary.
In practice they're corrupt trash.
In practice they're corrupt trash.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:06 pm to hawkeye007
There’s nothing in the fundamental core of unions that would align with conservative issues. This is the dumbest “what if” question ever asked.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:06 pm to hawkeye007
Unions aren’t inherently bad.
Public unions should be illegal.
But unions are free associations of likeminded individuals.
Unions advocating for progressivism are the enemy of freedom. They should be mocked.
Unions advocating for worker’s rights is great.
Public unions should be illegal.
But unions are free associations of likeminded individuals.
Unions advocating for progressivism are the enemy of freedom. They should be mocked.
Unions advocating for worker’s rights is great.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:08 pm to hawkeye007
I'm pretty meh on private sector unions but completely oppose public sector unions. Government already has enough corruption and waste embedded within them without a union adding to it
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:12 pm to hawkeye007
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The GOP has never supported workers rights
Utter bullshite. GOP has never been an ally of Big Labor. The GOP has had to fight Big Labor to end closed shops, right to work legislation, etc., in many red states.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:13 pm to hawkeye007
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The GOP has never supported workers rights
Geez, you sound just like my grandfather who died 25 years ago.
He worked for nearly 40 years for Standard Oil and would have gladly paid 95% of his income in taxes to Democrats rather than ever vote for a Republican. All because "The Democrats are for the working man".
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:13 pm to hawkeye007
Over payed special ppl are pro union
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:13 pm to hawkeye007
frick no.
What kind of man wants to be judged by the worst of the group?
What kind of man wants to be judged by the worst of the group?
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:15 pm to FredBear
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I'm pretty meh on private sector unions but completely oppose public sector unions. Government already has enough corruption and waste embedded within them without a union adding to it
Unions on top of civil service protections virtually guarantee a lazy, useless public sector.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:19 pm to hawkeye007
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The GOP has never supported workers rights,
Forcing you to join a union is "anti worker."
You communists are retarded.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:32 pm to Smokeyone
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Unions that make sense- trade unions that offer apprenticeships, testing standards, and certify work. Pipe fitters, electrical, construction.
The rest? Outdated and serve no positive role in our economy.
Even those you mention are iffy. As some other poster noted, these unions protect inferior and less productive craftsmen. The work on the 2 new nuclear reactors outside Augusta is a prime example.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:34 pm to hawkeye007
I’ve never known anybody to not get screwed by a union somewhere down the line one way or another
And yet people keep defending their right to get screwed. For whatever reason. I’m anti-union.
And yet people keep defending their right to get screwed. For whatever reason. I’m anti-union.
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